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Re: Chassis Q: Diagnol vs. Wishbone [Re: moparx] #2988244
11/23/21 02:08 PM
11/23/21 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by moparx
Originally Posted by W.I.N. racing
the only issue I have seen with Diagonal links is if they are under sized.. . the longer they get the bigger around they need to be. They will bend if too small a dia on hard leaving cars and in situations where the car gets out of shape.



WIN, what would you consider under size ?
beer


anything less than 1"x.083 (then it better be short). As stated prior as length increases diameter should too. There is a customer car here in the shed that has a .875dia by 44" long that I am going to recommend a larger diameter. The bending moment forces increases dramatically as Tube Dia increases marginally so bigger in this case is better with little to no weight penalty.
The advantage of a wishbone is you can make suspension tune changes (4 link bar position/length) without adjusting the wishbone. Additionally the wishbone can be mounted above the axle center-line allowing for center section/drive shaft drop out ( 8 3/4 or 9") where a diagonal link cant. Also a wishbone has three load points vs two on a diagonal link.
An X link is to a degree an upgrade from a wishbone as it has four load points and it pivots about the center of motion... seems like over kill but they were introduced at a performance level above my experience so there may be some benefit .


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Re: Chassis Q: Diagnol vs. Wishbone [Re: W.I.N. Racing] #2988262
11/23/21 02:40 PM
11/23/21 02:40 PM
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Thank You Sir ! up bow
looks like i will be building a new diagonal link for my "eternal project". the diagonal link now is 7/8x1/8" tube, 34" long, including the 5/8" heims.
would 1 1/4"x1/8" wall be good for this ?
believe it or not, someone told me years ago when i was making the one i have now, to use 1/2"x.083 wall tube with 3/8" clevis ends. eek laugh2..........er, um......NO.
beer

Re: Chassis Q: Diagnol vs. Wishbone [Re: ] #2988270
11/23/21 03:07 PM
11/23/21 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Superfreak
What is the consensus on an x bar?


Pretty much every suspended dragster on the planet uses them.


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