Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 2 of 2 1 2
Re: 440 Rear Main Seal [Re: rickraw] #2973422
10/12/21 12:58 PM
10/12/21 12:58 PM
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 19,464
north of coder
moparx Offline
"Butt Crack Bob"
moparx  Offline
"Butt Crack Bob"

Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 19,464
north of coder
thank you sir ! up
beer

Re: 440 Rear Main Seal [Re: moparx] #2973423
10/12/21 01:02 PM
10/12/21 01:02 PM
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 43,223
Bend,OR USA
C
Cab_Burge Offline
I Win
Cab_Burge  Offline
I Win
C

Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 43,223
Bend,OR USA
Originally Posted by moparx
adhesive silicone is different than RTV, correct ?
so no moisture needed to cure, correct ?
beer

I started using adhesive silicone because it doesn't push out or leak when used with oils, ATF and rear end grease, unlike a lot of automotive RTV scope up


Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)
Re: 440 Rear Main Seal [Re: Cab_Burge] #2973434
10/12/21 01:14 PM
10/12/21 01:14 PM
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 19,464
north of coder
moparx Offline
"Butt Crack Bob"
moparx  Offline
"Butt Crack Bob"

Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 19,464
north of coder
i have used adhesive silicone on many items, but never where heat was involved.
it does work good sealing in oils and other liquids in the non heated applications i have used it in, and also "glues" stuff together well ! it isn't any harder to remove than regular RTV.
i have just been apprehensive to use it in heated automotive applications such as transmission and engine oil pans because i was unsure it would stand the heat.
i guess i might have to try it now.
beer

Re: 440 Rear Main Seal [Re: moparx] #2973436
10/12/21 01:16 PM
10/12/21 01:16 PM
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 43,223
Bend,OR USA
C
Cab_Burge Offline
I Win
Cab_Burge  Offline
I Win
C

Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 43,223
Bend,OR USA
Originally Posted by moparx
i have used adhesive silicone on many items, but never where heat was involved.
it does work good sealing in oils and other liquids in the non heated applications i have used it in, and also "glues" stuff together well ! it isn't any harder to remove than regular RTV.
i have just been apprehensive to use it in heated automotive applications such as transmission and engine oil pans because i was unsure it would stand the heat.
i guess i might have to try it now.
beer
Do it up
I've used it for years on the BB rear main seal with no issues up


Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)
Re: 440 Rear Main Seal [Re: moparx] #2973465
10/12/21 01:54 PM
10/12/21 01:54 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 25,858
Rio Linda, CA
John_Kunkel Offline
Too Many Posts
John_Kunkel  Offline
Too Many Posts

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 25,858
Rio Linda, CA
Originally Posted by moparx
how does adhesive silicone cure ? internally out/absent of air and humidity, or externally in/exposure to air and humidity ?
beer


Normally, externally in...it will form an outer skin fairly quickly when exposed to air; that's why the damp pipe cleaner aids the cure time by starting the cure from both the inside and the outside. A full cure in normal humidity can take up to 72 hours.


The INTERNET, the MISinformation superhighway
Re: 440 Rear Main Seal [Re: John_Kunkel] #2973907
10/13/21 12:29 PM
10/13/21 12:29 PM
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 19,464
north of coder
moparx Offline
"Butt Crack Bob"
moparx  Offline
"Butt Crack Bob"

Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 19,464
north of coder
thanks for the explanation ! up
beer

Re: 440 Rear Main Seal [Re: moparx] #2974233
10/14/21 09:18 AM
10/14/21 09:18 AM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 17,864
S.E. Michigan
ZIPPY Offline
I Live Here
ZIPPY  Offline
I Live Here

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 17,864
S.E. Michigan
I also stopped using the side seals and filled the last two with RTV, believe it was Ultra Black, one in 2012 and the other in 2019.

They both sat for several days before being filled and fired up, which probably helped the material cure. Didn't do anything else.


Rich H.

Esse Quam Videri




Re: 440 Rear Main Seal [Re: ZIPPY] #2974532
10/15/21 07:16 AM
10/15/21 07:16 AM
Joined: Sep 2021
Posts: 20
SWFL
T
Tie Rod Garage Offline
member
Tie Rod Garage  Offline
member
T

Joined: Sep 2021
Posts: 20
SWFL
when I first assembled my twin turbo stroker for dyno testing, i used one of the billet seal holders with double o-rings and the standard fel pro seal. It leaked on the dyno. I pulled the engine apart to check everything and replaced the billet holder with a stock one, using the viton nitro fel pro seal and I filled the sides with Ultra Grey. Then once in place, i filled the V area on the back side of the block with Ultra Grey. So far, it's not leaking , but it's been NA . I'll be adding the turbos soon. Dyno mockup is Richard Holdener style..




Last edited by Tie Rod Garage; 10/15/21 07:16 AM.

1941 Dodge WC, 493 cid twin turbo FAST XFI
2002 Dakota R/T RC
Re: 440 Rear Main Seal [Re: Tie Rod Garage] #2974655
10/15/21 02:16 PM
10/15/21 02:16 PM
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 43,223
Bend,OR USA
C
Cab_Burge Offline
I Win
Cab_Burge  Offline
I Win
C

Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 43,223
Bend,OR USA
How did that pull perform?


Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)
Re: 440 Rear Main Seal [Re: Cab_Burge] #2974847
10/16/21 05:17 AM
10/16/21 05:17 AM
Joined: Sep 2021
Posts: 20
SWFL
T
Tie Rod Garage Offline
member
Tie Rod Garage  Offline
member
T

Joined: Sep 2021
Posts: 20
SWFL
7 psi gave 723 hp at 5400, and 860 lb/ft at 3400. Peak torque may have been at a lower rpm and HP was still climbing at 5400. We did not test below 3400 and Laz stopped at 5400 because we did not discuss what valve springs I had. I would have told him to go to at least 5800 if not more. we stopped testing because of several factors... it was over 100 degree in the dyno cell, IAT was about 200 degrees and we did not want to wait for a cool down to try more boost since it was about 9 pm and I had been up since 4:30am. The engine is in the truck, but no turbos yet. Before installation into the truck, i swapped from a hydraulic flat tappet Lunati cam 226 int./234 exh. ,0.494 int./0.513 exh. ,110 LSA to a Comp hydraulic roller. Intake Duration at .050 Inch Lift: 236 ,Exhaust Duration at .050 Inch Lift: 242, Intake Valve Lift: 0.544, Exhaust Valve Lift: 0.541
Lobe Separation: 110 . I'm currently collecting parts to upgrade the transmission from a simple B&M Transkit to a one with a billet steel front drum, 300M input shaft and the rest of the typical goodies.

Last edited by Tie Rod Garage; 10/16/21 05:36 AM.

1941 Dodge WC, 493 cid twin turbo FAST XFI
2002 Dakota R/T RC
Page 2 of 2 1 2






Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.1