Re: 1968 Charger steering problem ..new box
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08/29/21 04:15 PM
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Put a new Lares P/S steering box in my Charger. I couldn't cough up $650 plus for the others. The steering wheel for the first 6 to 8 inches feels like manual steering then it feels like power steering. I bled the steering by moving the wheel lock to lock 10 to 15 with the wheels up with the car not running, then running. When I did that with the car in the air, the power steering felt correct all the way thru the travel. PS belt is tight. thanks for any suggestions Is it their rebuilt box? http://catalog.larescorp.com/part/1033/Or is it their new Power Steering box that has a different design than the older ones? http://catalog.larescorp.com/part/11033/
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Re: 1968 Charger steering problem ..new box
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08/29/21 07:19 PM
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I bought a remanned box and pump a few months ago from them and couldn’t be happier. What’s your caster set at? Might want to put a pressure gauge on the pump, too, or remove the shim pack from the pump valve if you have a Saginaw. TRW pumps can also have progressive valving but I do not think it is adjustable other than by pulley size and rpm.
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Re: 1968 Charger steering problem ..new box
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08/29/21 10:42 PM
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You said it works fine on jack stands. Alignment can change ease of turning and return to center. In what order did you do everything? Did you get a print out with the alignment? What dont you get. He feels the lack of assist while the car is sitting still.
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Re: 1968 Charger steering problem ..new box
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08/30/21 11:38 AM
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I bled the system before the alignment. No didn't get the read out. The car when on jack stands running or off steers correctly. It's when I drive it the P/S doesn't work for the first 6 / 8 inches of travel. That sounds like some valve stuck internally or something else internally with the Power Steering gear. I’d contact Lares directly in Minnesota. And please report back with your experience. Sounds like Lares is becoming (or already was) a major supplier of rebuild units. In the past A1 Cardone seemed to be the major supplier to parts houses.
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Re: 1968 Charger steering problem ..new box
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08/30/21 09:13 PM
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Ask NITROUSN if he thinks you should check your idler arm. Sorry he never asked me. I think he is on the right track to make sure it is fully bled. At least he did not take the asinine advice on getting an alignment.
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Re: 1968 Charger steering problem ..new box
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08/30/21 09:29 PM
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When you first try steering you said no power assist unless you turned the wheel a couple inches. Do you have power assist then? If so it sure sounds like a problem in the gear boxes centering valve/control valve.
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Re: 1968 Charger steering problem ..new box
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08/30/21 10:16 PM
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From 1974 FSM (Factory Service Manual)
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Re: 1968 Charger steering problem ..new box
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08/31/21 07:35 AM
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Oh look at that. Improper wheel alignment. And I didn’t tell him to GET an alignment, I asked if he had the car aligned recently and if he had the spec sheet. The factory recommended different specs for power/manual steering. Changing those specs, especially with stickier modern tires, could aggravate issues and change return to center, which he also complained about. But what do I know, I’m not a total [censored] [censored] like you.
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Re: 1968 Charger steering problem ..new box
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[align:center][/align] Lares says they have a Limited Lifetime Warranty
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