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Re: I need to go just a little faster looking to hit 7.0 in 1/8 [Re: cspracer] #2935873
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Originally Posted by cspracer
The timing curve we are running starts out at 15 degrees and advances fairly quickly by 21 to a total of 36. I am running the second quickest springs in the distributor, so it should be ramping up to full advance by 2800 RPM. That is close to the rev level I am holding at on the line before I launch. (I am not running a transbrake and may not be consistent in this area yet, could be anywhere from 2200-2800).
I will have to test the blubbery thing next time I take it out.



I´d try 20° or even a little more initial with a limiter kit for the distributor. From my experience engines will idle cleaner, maybe this will reduce your bog. I´d also check the advance curve with a timing light, there are many variables and i would not rely on what the spring kit instruction say.

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Originally Posted by cspracer
The timing curve we are running starts out at 15 degrees and advances fairly quickly by 21 to a total of 36. I am running the second quickest springs in the distributor, so it should be ramping up to full advance by 2800 RPM. That is close to the rev level I am holding at on the line before I launch. (I am not running a transbrake and may not be consistent in this area yet, could be anywhere from 2200-2800).
I will have to test the blubbery thing next time I take it out.



I´d try 20° or even a little more initial with a limiter kit for the distributor. From my experience engines will idle cleaner, maybe this will reduce your bog. I´d also check the advance curve with a timing light, there are many variables and i would not rely on what the spring kit instruction say.

Michael
I agree with this. I would try 20 intial w/18 advance gives you 38 which should be a good starting point for an iron head lower compression 440. This may help with the slight bog you have. Did you change the rear brake hose yet? Put some jacks under the frame and let the rear drop to see if its too short. Have you had a chance to check the light throttle response[blubbery]?


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Re: I need to go just a little faster looking to hit 7.0 in 1/8 [Re: carnut68] #2936064
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We did change the brake line in the rear and they work better than ever now, so I am excited to go to the track with good brakes that I do not feel will be hurting my performance.
We adjusted the throttle cable to make sure it was fully opening and adjusted the screws on the pumps to take out any slack in them. I have not had a chance to run the car and do any other testing, as I am working on it in a neighborhood and do not want to bother any of the neighbors. I expect to get in several rounds of testing on Friday and hope to get the car weighed and get a good idea where we are now. Even though we made a couple of runs 3 weeks ago, I would not say we have had a good run to evaluate the car on. I am hoping that Brainerd will be a track prepped similar to what I am used to in NC. The tracks in NC are always very well prepped and honestly as much as I like the folks at Paradise, the track reminded me more of a no prep track, at least that Friday.

One other note, I have looked at the 1050 Dominator I have and the 1050 Dominator my dad has on his car, and even though I thought they were the same, they are not. Mine is a 8082-3 progressive 2 circuit, while his is a 8896, Soft progressive linkage, bigger jets out of the box (90 vs 84), 3 circuit and a 125-55 power valve vs my 125-65. Not sure how much of that matters but I was glad to find the original info on my carb. I intend to set it up similar to out of the box as a starting point for tuning on Friday. Will adjust the jets up a couple of sizes due to the spacers, until we try running without them. I don't want to change things too much, but I am hoping to see some 7.0's.

I will try upping the initial timing to 17 instead of 15 and go to a total of 38. It really seems to idle and crank well at 15 but we will see if the 17 helps.


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Re: I need to go just a little faster looking to hit 7.0 in 1/8 [Re: cspracer] #2936068
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Update from Friday night.

Summary
Weighed the car, 2860 without me in it, 3080 with 220 lb driver.
Best time: 60ft - 1.579, 330ft - 4.625, ET - 7.190, MPH - 95.27

Took the car to Brainerd for the first time. They were running a nostalgia race the next day so the track was pretty full. We were hauling the car in the new enclosed trailer for the first time.
Got to the track a little later than we had hoped but they were just getting started so we went to unload the car. As I said, this was our first time loading or unloading the car from this trailer. Some of you may know where this is going.
As we were pulling off the trailer, the exhaust hit the spot where the ramp comes out of the trailer and completely stopped the car. Our trailers have always been narrow ramps, and this was a full back door. We bent the exhaust headers pretty bad and had to take a jack to lift the front of the car just to get it out of the trailer. Lesson #1 learned, we looked at other trailers and need to either park on a more level spot or have an extra transition ramp to keep from hitting the bottom of the car.
Once we recovered from that, we took the car out and ran a 7.19 at 95.27 mph straight off the trailer. Here is the set-up we went with:
1. We switched to 93 octane gas
2. We lowered the jets to 88/87 and increased the squirter to a 35.
3. Timing was 36 degrees at full advance
4. Shift at 5800, rev limit at 6200. We hit the rev limit hard well before the finish line.
5. We did put thermostat in at 180 so the car was running about 190-200 degrees.
We had no stumble at all off the line.

So we were very happy with the run. Figured if we had not hit the rev, we may have been in the 7.0's, so we changed the rev limit to 6400. Cooled down the car and went back out.
This time the car slowed down to 7.48. We tried 3 more runs but never got out of the 7.40-7.50 range. The last run we advanced the timing to 38 and the car slowed about .1 seconds.
The car has been making a kind of loud sound on one of the cylinders. Kind of a loud bang when that one cylinder hits. We inspected the headers, and while they were bent down probably 2-3 inches, we did not see any cracks in the headers. We were so focused on this we really did not get around to making changes to the set-up as we were just trying to get back to where we started the night. We did play with the bias on the brakes from round to round as we had not had a chance to really get them dialed in since changing the fronts to disc.

On the way back home it occurred to us that the first round likely had a mix of 114 and 93 octane. My tank only holds about 2 gallons, so it may have had 1/2 gallon of 114 left in it. Perhaps this was the difference as we ran 93 the remainder of the evening. I know it sounds like we are just terrible testers but this was only the second time out with the car in 11 years, and I was focused on getting comfortable driving again.
On the 4th pass down the track I did come heads up with a new Challenger. I never saw him once we left, so that felt nice!

All in all I was happy with the evening. We did not hurt the car much from what I can tell, and we made 5 passes on a new track. We got the trailer home in one piece, even though it was about 2:00AM before we got in. Brainerd is a 2 hour drive, not like the 30 minutes it used to take me to get to three different dragstrips in NC!

This week and next we are re-wiring the car. (That is another story for another day). We are painting the trailer and getting it organized inside. We plan to check the left side of the car, (pull the valve cover and check the valves), inspect the headers closer, change out the transmission pan gasket with a nice new Moroso Blue one, relocate the transmission cooler to a lower horizontal mounting instead of the vertical position we have it in now. We also plan to run the car a bit and pull the plugs to try to see what they look like. Finally we are going to check the vacuum and make sure it is good and not having leaks.

We are looking at test and tune again in 2 weeks at Brainerd, and then hoping to get in a run at Commerce on 7/24. Still have some safety work to do to the car before we run an NHRA track, but we are very close, and want to run there before it closes later this year.

Next time out we are going to start off with a target of 100-104 octane by mixing 93 with the racing gas I have. Not sure if this will matter, but it really was the only thing we changed significantly from the first round. We will likely swap out the 6400 chip on the MSD as well. Maybe in a month we will have new Hoosier Radial racing tires and see if they help.

A few new questions for the group:
1. What do we need to check on the headers since we hit them unloading the car. Is there any thing we could have done to hurt the car when that happened?
2. Have you ever heard of an MSD chip messing up and hurting your performance. I think these are only there to keep you from over reving and we never seemed to hit the chip once we changed it up to a 6400.
3. What should we check when we hear a loud popping on one cylinder?
4. If the idle is not holding steady, would this indicate a vacuum leak? It was moving between 800-1200 every 15-20 seconds


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Re: I need to go just a little faster looking to hit 7.0 in 1/8 [Re: cspracer] #2937180
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Originally Posted by cspracer
Update from Friday night.

Summary
Weighed the car, 2860 without me in it, 3080 with 220 lb driver.
Best time: 60ft - 1.579, 330ft - 4.625, ET - 7.190, MPH - 95.27

Took the car to Brainerd for the first time. They were running a nostalgia race the next day so the track was pretty full. We were hauling the car in the new enclosed trailer for the first time.
Got to the track a little later than we had hoped but they were just getting started so we went to unload the car. As I said, this was our first time loading or unloading the car from this trailer. Some of you may know where this is going.
As we were pulling off the trailer, the exhaust hit the spot where the ramp comes out of the trailer and completely stopped the car. Our trailers have always been narrow ramps, and this was a full back door. We bent the exhaust headers pretty bad and had to take a jack to lift the front of the car just to get it out of the trailer. Lesson #1 learned, we looked at other trailers and need to either park on a more level spot or have an extra transition ramp to keep from hitting the bottom of the car.
Once we recovered from that, we took the car out and ran a 7.19 at 95.27 mph straight off the trailer. Here is the set-up we went with:
1. We switched to 93 octane gas
2. We lowered the jets to 88/87 and increased the squirter to a 35.
3. Timing was 36 degrees at full advance
4. Shift at 5800, rev limit at 6200. We hit the rev limit hard well before the finish line.
5. We did put thermostat in at 180 so the car was running about 190-200 degrees.
We had no stumble at all off the line.

So we were very happy with the run. Figured if we had not hit the rev, we may have been in the 7.0's, so we changed the rev limit to 6400. Cooled down the car and went back out.
This time the car slowed down to 7.48. We tried 3 more runs but never got out of the 7.40-7.50 range. The last run we advanced the timing to 38 and the car slowed about .1 seconds.
The car has been making a kind of loud sound on one of the cylinders. Kind of a loud bang when that one cylinder hits. We inspected the headers, and while they were bent down probably 2-3 inches, we did not see any cracks in the headers. We were so focused on this we really did not get around to making changes to the set-up as we were just trying to get back to where we started the night. We did play with the bias on the brakes from round to round as we had not had a chance to really get them dialed in since changing the fronts to disc.

On the way back home it occurred to us that the first round likely had a mix of 114 and 93 octane. My tank only holds about 2 gallons, so it may have had 1/2 gallon of 114 left in it. Perhaps this was the difference as we ran 93 the remainder of the evening. I know it sounds like we are just terrible testers but this was only the second time out with the car in 11 years, and I was focused on getting comfortable driving again.
On the 4th pass down the track I did come heads up with a new Challenger. I never saw him once we left, so that felt nice!

All in all I was happy with the evening. We did not hurt the car much from what I can tell, and we made 5 passes on a new track. We got the trailer home in one piece, even though it was about 2:00AM before we got in. Brainerd is a 2 hour drive, not like the 30 minutes it used to take me to get to three different dragstrips in NC!

This week and next we are re-wiring the car. (That is another story for another day). We are painting the trailer and getting it organized inside. We plan to check the left side of the car, (pull the valve cover and check the valves), inspect the headers closer, change out the transmission pan gasket with a nice new Moroso Blue one, relocate the transmission cooler to a lower horizontal mounting instead of the vertical position we have it in now. We also plan to run the car a bit and pull the plugs to try to see what they look like. Finally we are going to check the vacuum and make sure it is good and not having leaks.

We are looking at test and tune again in 2 weeks at Brainerd, and then hoping to get in a run at Commerce on 7/24. Still have some safety work to do to the car before we run an NHRA track, but we are very close, and want to run there before it closes later this year.

Next time out we are going to start off with a target of 100-104 octane by mixing 93 with the racing gas I have. Not sure if this will matter, but it really was the only thing we changed significantly from the first round. We will likely swap out the 6400 chip on the MSD as well. Maybe in a month we will have new Hoosier Radial racing tires and see if they help.

A few new questions for the group:
1. What do we need to check on the headers since we hit them unloading the car. Is there any thing we could have done to hurt the car when that happened?
2. Have you ever heard of an MSD chip messing up and hurting your performance. I think these are only there to keep you from over reving and we never seemed to hit the chip once we changed it up to a 6400.
3. What should we check when we hear a loud popping on one cylinder?
4. If the idle is not holding steady, would this indicate a vacuum leak? It was moving between 800-1200 every 15-20 seconds


I have the same MSD dist you have and mine did the same thing [searching] at idle. Try 1 heavier spring in the dist to see if it helps. I had to use 2 medium springs for it to stabilize. Still all in at 2500. I have 25 initial/34 total. I also had to toss the rev limit pill it was causing it to miss way before I hit the limit on the pill.


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Re: I need to go just a little faster looking to hit 7.0 in 1/8 [Re: carnut68] #2937197
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Try raising the front of the trailer a little more when unloading your car that should give you the clearance for the exhaust


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Re: I need to go just a little faster looking to hit 7.0 in 1/8 [Re: carnut68] #2937222
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Thanks, we will do that.


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2016 - Hemi RAM 1500 - Hauls all the toys
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Re: I need to go just a little faster looking to hit 7.0 in 1/8 [Re: cspracer] #2937225
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You need to go back to race fuel (we'll maybe not 114), or a mix. Those cranking compression numbers aren't telling the story. And I wouldn't change anything else......yet. You need to get the fuel right first. What do the plugs look like now.?. Are the pistons a dome style? Since we cant see all the increments of each run, and have no weather data, what happened exactly on those following runs? Was it in the 60, or was it mph.

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It takes one heck of a hit to bend headers down 2-3 inches. You better check thing over on the engine and slow the heck down.


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Re: I need to go just a little faster looking to hit 7.0 in 1/8 [Re: pittsburghracer] #2937368
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Let me clarify a bit. I have had a turn down on the end of the driver side header to keep the exhaust from blowing directly on the shifter cable. This turn down has caught several times when I was backing up, this was not the first time. We removed the turn down and realized the header on that side was down about 2 inches. We never hit it very hard, always while slowly backing up but this time it caught on the trailer. We were able to bend it back even with the right side.
So when you so check the engine, what exactly would you be looking for? A leaking header gasket? Broken header? A broken header bolt?
I don’t know what else to check. From what I can see there is no real damage but I dont know what I dont know.

As for slowing down I feel like I am taking this much more patiently and being a lot more careful than when I initially built the car 20 years ago. I am trying not to take any shortcuts with safety, and I want to continue to move forward. My short term goal is a consistent 7.0 car and we are not close by results than I was 11 years ago. Still I am not discouraged and continue to try to improve each week. Like everyone else at some point the budget will naturally slow me down!


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Re: I need to go just a little faster looking to hit 7.0 in 1/8 [Re: cspracer] #2937371
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Went to unload the car today and the drivers side slick was flat. I knew I was on borrowed time with these but they still showed decent tread. I have been eyeballing radials so maybe it is time to try a thinner slightly taller Hoosier or Goodyear radial.
This will probably keep us from running Brainerd again in two weeks but we still should be able to make Commerce on 7/24.
Next time out we will go back to experimenting with fuel, try new tires and probably change the MSD distributor spring to a stronger one to prevent the idle creeping. also going to replace that 6400 rpm chip in rev limiter.

Lots to do between now and then.


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Originally Posted by cspracer
Let me clarify a bit. I have had a turn down on the end of the driver side header to keep the exhaust from blowing directly on the shifter cable. This turn down has caught several times when I was backing up, this was not the first time. We removed the turn down and realized the header on that side was down about 2 inches. We never hit it very hard, always while slowly backing up but this time it caught on the trailer. We were able to bend it back even with the right side.
So when you so check the engine, what exactly would you be looking for? A leaking header gasket? Broken header? A broken header bolt?
I don’t know what else to check. From what I can see there is no real damage but I dont know what I dont know.

As for slowing down I feel like I am taking this much more patiently and being a lot more careful than when I initially built the car 20 years ago. I am trying not to take any shortcuts with safety, and I want to continue to move forward. My short term goal is a consistent 7.0 car and we are not close by results than I was 11 years ago. Still I am not discouraged and continue to try to improve each week. Like everyone else at some point the budget will naturally slow me down!




I’m right there with you hitting my exhaust backing out. Even unhooking and jacking up the trailer it’s still iffy for me. I run alcohol so I have the mufflers, a short section of exhaust, and it’s turned to come out in front of the rear slicks. What even makes mine worse is I’m 65 and go in the driver’s side window and I don’t like to start it inside the trailer. You said earlier it started making a noise then Slowed down. Find out what that noise is before something gets hurt. Are the ones lugs close to the header? Could the header have hit and damaged a spark plug? Pull the valve cover and look and feel around. It may come down to it just liking the race fuel but there’s still the noise you heard. Summit and Jegs both offer ramps that slide under your ramp door to help with the exhaust issue. They are very nice but not cheap.


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Here are the details. Instead of typing them all I am going to post a picture of the log.
Changes we made are highlighted in yellow.

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Thanks. We will pull the valve cover tomorrow and check the valves to make sure everything is right.
I will likely build a ramp extension that will allow a slower transition. I also think the trailer is still too low in the front, so I am going to flip the hitch and raise it 2 inches in front. I hope that will help it pull a little better and lower the rear by an inch or two. Right now it is too low in front, 11.5 inches vs 13.5 in rear.


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I would mix it 50/50 next or some 100-110 race fuel. What's available in your area?

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I have both 5 gallons of 112 renegade and 3 gallons of 114 Sunoco. The track has gas for a reasonable amount. Glad I am not having to buy it from the local Sunoco store near me. They want $16/gallon for 112!
I plan to mix it to a target of 100 and test there. Will also try some straight 112 again once we have a good base just to see if it helps or not. I suspect somewhere in between 98-114 I will find the sweat spot for my car.


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Renegade makes a 98 race gas, Crate 98.

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Cumming Georgia
Been a while since I have had anything to post on here. Every week we get rained out, and simply have not been able to get back to the track. Since the last time I was on here, we have made the following changes.
1. Bought a set of Hoosier Radials, 29.5x9xR15. These look a good bit taller than the old Hoosier Bias tires I had. These are also the lightweight radials weighing on 22 lbs each. Excited to try them.
2. Found we had a leak around the valley pan gasket. Once this was fixed, the idle became much more steady.
3. Bought an M-1 Intake. Putting it on tonight and hoping to improve from the Weiand Team-G I have been running.
4. Bought new 1/2 inch steel line for fuel. This will help me be legal at Commerce this weekend. Installing tonight. Safer and looks a lot better than 3/8 rubber line.
5. Going back to 100-112 octane fuel. We may not need it, but I do not want to worry about that right now.
6. Plugging any holes in the firewall this week
7. Moving the drive shaft loop forward to within 6 inches of the front to be legal.
8. Install new SFI roll bar padding
9. Bought a 2020 SFI Helmet
10. Installing the bottom submarine belt in my 5 point harness. Never run that before but I want to try it.

My wife and I decided to name the racing team "Blackdog Dragracing" after our dog Martin.

Lots done to the car. I just want to get in there and try it all out.

Still to come: (Probably not until the off season)
1. Bought and received TTI 2 inch headers. Waiting to put these on.
2. Pulled my Eddy heads off the 68 RR and took them to Marsh Performance to switch out the locks, retainers and springs. Need to figure out which set of heads to put back on the 68.
3. Still plan to rewire the car

I will post some pictures as we work on the car this week.

Next opportunity to run will be at Atlanta Dragway in Commerce this Friday night and possibly Saturday. Planning to run there and Brainerd several more times this season. Also plan to be at Piedmont Dragway on Mopar Day 9/12/2021 and Farmington Dragway for their Mopar Day on 10/16/2021.


1968 - 383 Roadrunner 4 speed street car, Dad bought new
1970 - 440 Roadrunner drag footbrake car 6.99 1/8th
2016 - Hemi RAM 1500 - Hauls all the toys
North Georgia / Central NC
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