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Re: Driving technique to save a crossed up racecar on slicks? [Re: Hemi_Joel] #2921018
05/11/21 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Hemi_Joel
Originally Posted by gregsdart
Short wheelbase cars are generally the worst. The ackerman angle toes the front tires out more and more In a correction as the wheelbase shortens. My dart has no ackerman built into it. Stays dead parallel lock to lock. Recovers very, very well. But it is a be it ch to push around a corner!


very interesting. I've never heard of doing that before. Did you design it or modify it for that purpose?

My first attempt a building a rack front steer i had drum brakes. That forced me to narrow the rack too much. I discovered how much it helped when i got out of control in the traps at 135 mph. When i redid the chassis in 1996 i oppted to leave it that way and it saved my butt twice more. Seriously crossed up at high speed but responded instantly to
counter steer.


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Re: Driving technique to save a crossed up racecar on slicks? [Re: gregsdart] #2921032
05/11/21 06:07 AM
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Blipping the throttle;e after crossing it up is what I call trying to be a hero......It very rarely works out, and in 90% of the cases IS what actually wrecked the car......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9A5Z_eDtAw&t=253s


'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: Driving technique to save a crossed up racecar on slicks? [Re: AndyF] #2921095
05/11/21 10:20 AM
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Having been there done that on a few occasions I believe the circumstances dictate the actions. Certainly getting out of it when its doing something stupid is the right strategy, but NOT getting back in it is sometimes what needs to happen. Say for instance as happened to me in Tucson last year. 1000' or so the car makes a hard left hand turn and I find myself staring into the other wall and pointed at the lane. Racing in Top Comp against a dragster dialed at 6.20 going 220 or so. I decided once the dust settled, and yes the chutes were already out that maybe a slight course correction was a good idea. Slight steering input to get it at least pointed more down track and a quick blip on the throttle got me out of her lane and only took out one cone. Would I suggest this strategy to others HELL NO. But it worked for me in the moment. As I say each situation requires its own correction. Many times no correction is the best way to go, just let it settle down and ride it out. In my case after the run my opponent had NO IDEA what had happened and said she never saw a thing. But with her ISC padding in the cage she likely could not see anything that was not directly in front of her, so could have gotten really ugly had I stayed on my trajectory. I have had a throttle hang up, lost a tire, gotten into oil and each situation requires its own resolution. The main thing is dont panic...


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Re: Driving technique to save a crossed up racecar on slicks? [Re: Al_Alguire] #2921172
05/11/21 01:39 PM
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back in the early 70's we had a saying around here : "it's not nice to show God your mufflers !"
this came about when a buddy of mine crashed the "community shared" 1970 newyorker i owned at the time.
off to my junkyard it went.........
beer

Re: Driving technique to save a crossed up racecar on slicks? [Re: moparx] #2921685
05/12/21 02:06 PM
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Well I come mighty close . Almost rolled her a couple of times , but I’ve been quick enough to stay out of this graveyard

Re: Driving technique to save a crossed up racecar on slicks? [Re: Wirenut] #2921723
05/12/21 03:26 PM
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Biggest thing ive noticed when watching is how pour set up some chassis are, and how little knowledge the guy has running it.... If you are unsure of anything, please take it into someone who knows chassis, shocks, and weight basis. Your not only risking your [censored], your risking the guy in the other lanes [censored] too!

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