Re: Tighten lug nuts
[Re: moparjim79]
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02/18/21 08:32 AM
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https://www.mazda-parts.com/oem-parts/mazda-yokohama-255-50r20-pk1101058410I normally take the car to a good local quick lube for the oil changes. Yes, this place does a good job and is conscientious. But it is for oil changes only with a pit under the vehicle, so no, they aren't going to do the tire rotation. I have no problem doing it myself, but I normally didn't because I don't have a good spot to do it. With 130,000 miles on this vehicle, it is on its fourth set of tires. The last set was a cheaper set and did not last long at all, but even this set of tires the rear had plenty of wear left and the front were long spent. It isn't fun driving in the snow here without a decent set of tires. It is also not a great idea to have tires with different tread styles, different wear and all and drive in the snow. I have done it and I have also spun a car around when the front grab and the rear don't. So I don't bother trying and replace all 4 when I change them. Dealer recommended I get smaller wheels and smaller winter tires, but these do a good job and I am at a place if I don't have to drive in the snow, I don't. I had a local shop where I had all my work done. The owner knew me, I recommended him to a lot of people, and he would put me ahead of the line if I stopped in for an oil change or something. Unfortunately, he was 73 and decided to sell and close. The local Midas place bought his garage and I won't be going to Midas. I will probably get another floor jack and do the rotating on my own. It just isn't worth it to me to schedule a day off from work to get a car in for an appointment for an oil change and a tire rotation. Thank-you to everyone on the recommendations. I knew the impact would be too much, but wanted to know how others did it.
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Re: Tighten lug nuts
[Re: Dcuda69]
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02/18/21 05:27 PM
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I stopped off at a tire place today .... Torque wrenches and sticks ? ... fiddlesticks! Just a impact gun ... appeared to be skillfully applied ! I know a few shops/managers/owners that are now requiring more than 1 person check wheel torque before the vehicle leaves....NONE are using impact guns OR torque sticks!!!! WAY too much at stake!!! Discount Tire kid hit my 47lb Geo Metro studs with an air gun and buggered half the threads before I saw and yelled at the manager. B3500 takes 80lbs M375 is 450
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Re: Tighten lug nuts
[Re: IMGTX]
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02/19/21 11:10 PM
02/19/21 11:10 PM
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I use an impact gun to take them off--but never to put them on. Spin on by hand and torque wrench to final torque.
I don't trust torque sticks but that's just me.
I don't trust them either. Seems all the shops used to use them, now nobody does. My local tire shops went back to Torques Wrenches. I do a straight 100 ftlbs unless it is a large vehicle with thicker studs like a 1 ton then I look up the torque specs. Me too - 100 ft.lbs alloy or steel.
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Re: Tighten lug nuts
[Re: IcorkSOAK]
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02/19/21 11:29 PM
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I can NOT IMAGINE a guy working at a tire place using a torque wrench ..... PROPERLY and progressively torquing down each and every wheel As wheels/rotors/liability become more costly, you will see it everywhere! The new stuff(wheels/tires/hubs/abs/esc/etc) are no joke! F the torque up and it comes back in a big way!!
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Re: Tighten lug nuts
[Re: IcorkSOAK]
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02/20/21 07:48 AM
02/20/21 07:48 AM
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I can NOT IMAGINE a guy working at a tire place using a torque wrench ..... PROPERLY and progressively torquing down each and every wheel i work in a new car dealer bodyshop. i get a lot of cars with those tuner splined lug nuts. i use a torque wrench when tightening them. i cracked the key once 5 or so years ago when tightening with a impact and torque stick.
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Re: Tighten lug nuts
[Re: IcorkSOAK]
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02/20/21 08:21 AM
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I can NOT IMAGINE a guy working at a tire place using a torque wrench ..... PROPERLY and progressively torquing down each and every wheel The wal Mart tire center in Carlisle requires its employees to sign off on a waiver that they did re torque all wheels with a torque wrench. From what I heard years ago, someone got right on the highway from leaving and one of their wheels came off at expressway speeds.
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Re: Tighten lug nuts
[Re: moparjim79]
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02/20/21 08:49 AM
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I have the tools and the know how to do it myself but I always get tires rotated at Discount tire.
With the new covid rules they don't even make you get out of your car. My son and I took my wife's 18 Durango R/T for a rotate and balance a few weeks ago. We sat in the car and they did the whole job in TWELVE MINUTES that is rotate and balance and torque the wheels with a torque wrench. Our total time on the property was probably 15 minutes.
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Re: Tighten lug nuts
[Re: Pkeel]
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02/21/21 02:45 AM
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The drive tires will always wear out quicker than the non drive tires on everything that is not full time 4 wheel drive, they do all the work Use to be before radials tires where built good enough to go over 20,000 miles it was a wash on which tires would wear out first if you didn't rotate them every 5000 miles, now with tires that are made to last over 40,000 miles+ you should have them rotated as often as possible around 5,000 to 7,500 miles to get the most bang for your dollars
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Re: Tighten lug nuts
[Re: IcorkSOAK]
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02/21/21 01:16 PM
02/21/21 01:16 PM
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seaBEE ... does your memory go back far enuff to remember the lug T spec .... On Roman chariot wheels ? I sea oleham2 aka mopX lurking here ... Maybe HE HAS those chariot lug specs handy
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