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Experimental Chrysler powered P47 #2884652
02/06/21 10:54 AM
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Vintage 1945 film of Chrysler inline liquid cooled 16 cylinder engine in a prototype P47 fighter. The development was too late in the war to be adopted for use.

Re: Experimental Chrysler powered P47 [Re: Mastershake340] #2884671
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That ruined the looks of the Thunderbolt, but it would have been a kick ass plane, but the jets were coming.


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Re: Experimental Chrysler powered P47 [Re: Mastershake340] #2885035
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Thanks for sharing that fascinating video, I’ve seen still photos of that aircraft but never video, excellent!


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Re: Experimental Chrysler powered P47 [Re: Mastershake340] #2885143
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After watching the XL-2220 youtube video,
at the end youtube suggested this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bd8_vO5zrjo&feature=emb_rel_end

about a new animated graphic analysis of the Battle of Midway,
first from the Japanese point of view,
then from the USA perspective.
These 3 videos explained the movement of ships and planes
FAR BETTER than anything I had read or seen before.

Re: Experimental Chrysler powered P47 [Re: 360view] #2885180
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Originally Posted by 360view
After watching the XL-2220 youtube video,
at the end youtube suggested this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bd8_vO5zrjo&feature=emb_rel_end

about a new animated graphic analysis of the Battle of Midway,
first from the Japanese point of view,
then from the USA perspective.
These 3 videos explained the movement of ships and planes
FAR BETTER than anything I had read or seen before.


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Re: Experimental Chrysler powered P47 [Re: Mastershake340] #2885297
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I never heard of this before - the video calls the motor a straight 16, but it's a V-16. I know some retired Chrysler guys that did some work on the further development of this engine.

Here's a quote from earlier today:

This engine gave us our early expertise with the Hemi. They put their knowledge into the early 331 Hemi.

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Re: Experimental Chrysler powered P47 [Re: Sunroofcuda] #2885343
02/07/21 10:06 PM
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I saw this engine in the Walter P Chrysler Museum in 2011. It was an inverted V-16. I wonder where it is now, since the museum closed?

v16.jpg

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Re: Experimental Chrysler powered P47 [Re: Mastershake340] #2885421
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https://www.allpar.com/threads/the-...r-engine-with-a-hemi-head-design.229987/

sample quote

If you look at a cutaway of this engine, and you're looking at a cutaway of the 1951 New Yorker engine,
you'd think they were brothers, except these were upside down, maybe so they could mount a couple of cannons in the nose.
The Messerschmitts had nose cannons, and they were also an inverted V.

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Re: Experimental Chrysler powered P47 [Re: 360view] #2885529
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I remember seeing and reading about another Chrysler experimental piston driven aircraft X24 that was a 24 cylinder in a X format with 6 cylinders on each bank, it was develop in the same time frame also, 1943 to early 1945. I think it was air cooled, not liquid cooled
I don't know if they made it into a airframe or not, I seem to remember a comment on cooling being a issue with it shruggy
It would be nice to see that article again to compare it to this engine, if someone else who is a lot better on retrieving data and article like this than me luck


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Re: Experimental Chrysler powered P47 [Re: Cab_Burge] #2885583
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Originally Posted by Cab_Burge
I remember seeing and reading about another Chrysler experimental piston driven aircraft X24 that was a 24 cylinder in a X format with 6 cylinders on each bank, it was develop in the same time frame also, 1943 to early 1945. I think it was air cooled, not liquid cooled
I don't know if they made it into a airframe or not, I seem to remember a comment on cooling being a issue with it shruggy
It would be nice to see that article again to compare it to this engine, if someone else who is a lot better on retrieving data and article like this than me luck


Is this what you are thinking about?

https://oldmachinepress.com/2017/06/05/isotta-fraschini-zeta-x-24-aircraft-engine/

Or maybe this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X24_engine

Found another one. Looks like there were several companies working on X24 engines

https://oldmachinepress.com/2013/06/16/allison-x-4520-24-cylinder-aircraft-engine/

Still looking for a chrysler.

Close but no cigar. A57 tank engine. Five Chrysler 6 cyl engines connected to a central crankcase.

https://oldmachinepress.com/2012/10/05/chrysler-a57-multibank-tank-engine/

Another X24

https://airandspace.si.edu/collection-objects/packard-1a-2775-x-24-engine/nasm_A19710899000

Ok, last one, I promise. Another article about the V16 that started this thread

https://www.allpar.com/threads/the-...r-engine-with-a-hemi-head-design.229987/

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Re: Experimental Chrysler powered P47 [Re: GomangoCuda] #2885851
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Thanks for the help up
I'm sure it was a Chrysler made X24 experimental engine, maybe it was in one of the Petersen publication magazines like Car Craft or Motor Trend that I saw it in confused
My R&D skills can use some help on data retrieval and I appreciate those that are good at it like you bow thumbs


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Thank you, very interesting, but reminds me of my parents old 8mm movies, often the main character, is behind the camera


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Re: Experimental Chrysler powered P47 [Re: Hemi_Joel] #2886547
02/10/21 08:35 PM
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That thing would be SO COOL to have on an engine stand and light it up occasionally. For the neighbors of course. (Hate my neighbors)

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Originally Posted by Hemi_Joel
I saw this engine in the Walter P Chrysler Museum in 2011. It was an inverted V-16. I wonder where it is now, since the museum closed?

Re: Experimental Chrysler powered P47 [Re: 71TA] #2886571
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Chrysler also built the rocket engines for the Saturn 5 Apollo missions for NASA, they never had a single failure.


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