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Re: A new year [Re: hemi-itis] #2888014
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For those of us not to the level of knowledge many of you are:
What do the Rpk, Rk and Rvk values represent?

Thanks, Joe

Re: A new year [Re: jlatessa] #2888029
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Originally Posted by jlatessa
For those of us not to the level of knowledge many of you are:
What do the Rpk, Rk and Rvk values represent?

Thanks, Joe



Honing Terms
Rpk =Peak roughness
Rk =Core roughness
Rvk =Valley roughness found below the core roughness


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Re: A new year [Re: Alan Prusiensky] #2888038
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Originally Posted by Alan Prusiensky
I some reason that isn't what the Hemi wants. I have a idea why the charge doesn't swirl when it enters the chamber with a flat piston it tumbles. What is so crazy I have taken apart a lot of pro stock engines built by a lot of smart people and what I have found they all have pretty flat pistons. If I make my piston flat with the exact same compression my motor will be done 75hp.
Originally Posted by turbobitt
[quote=Alan Prusiensky]Piston shape and hone was the most return I have found.

Alan,




I think it has to do with the Hemi99 valves being more of a true cross flow nature head, While the DRCE heads are closer to being "side by side"


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Re: A new year [Re: Taylor] #2888488
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Thank you Taylor....Joe

Re: A new year [Re: Taylor] #2888541
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Originally Posted by Taylor
Originally Posted by Alan Prusiensky
I some reason that isn't what the Hemi wants. I have a idea why the charge doesn't swirl when it enters the chamber with a flat piston it tumbles. What is so crazy I have taken apart a lot of pro stock engines built by a lot of smart people and what I have found they all have pretty flat pistons. If I make my piston flat with the exact same compression my motor will be done 75hp.
Originally Posted by turbobitt
[quote=Alan Prusiensky]Piston shape and hone was the most return I have found.

Alan,




I think it has to do with the Hemi99 valves being more of a true cross flow nature head, While the DRCE heads are closer to being "side by side"


The Hemi 99 and DRCE valve layout/chamber design is quite similar. No one uses a "side by side" or Gen 1/2 Hemi style "cross flow" chamber design, everything is canted.

Re: A new year [Re: sixpakdodge] #2888848
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Originally Posted by sixpakdodge
Originally Posted by Taylor
Originally Posted by Alan Prusiensky
I some reason that isn't what the Hemi wants. I have a idea why the charge doesn't swirl when it enters the chamber with a flat piston it tumbles. What is so crazy I have taken apart a lot of pro stock engines built by a lot of smart people and what I have found they all have pretty flat pistons. If I make my piston flat with the exact same compression my motor will be done 75hp.
Originally Posted by turbobitt
[quote=Alan Prusiensky]Piston shape and hone was the most return I have found.

Alan,




I think it has to do with the Hemi99 valves being more of a true cross flow nature head, While the DRCE heads are closer to being "side by side"


The Hemi 99 and DRCE valve layout/chamber design is quite similar. No one uses a "side by side" or Gen 1/2 Hemi style "cross flow" chamber design, everything is canted.




I understand they are not side by side like a traditional wedge but in a canted position , but the Hemi 99 is closer to being a cross flow then the DRCE head, the DRCE heads are more of a a 10/4 o'clock while the 99's are closer to a 11/5 o'clock


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Re: A new year [Re: Taylor] #2895841
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Alan, congratulations on your new sponsorship and two car team! Best wishes for upcoming season. You have lots of Mopar folks rooting for you!
Tom

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Re: A new year [Re: tomkelly] #2895960
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Good Luck Alan and team!!!


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