What MOPAR "tech"??? The latest updates to the new W8 casting??? Nope......can't be that, there is no such thing as a new W8 casting. Maybe the cutting edge Gen 2 HEMI water head geared towards max N/A builds??? You know, something other than flat rectangular ports from the 60s??? Nope........not that, either.

I know......those readily avaliable engine blocks in multiple configurations.LOL

MOPAR "tech".........now THAT'S funny.

You know, good MOPAR tech:
906 vs 452
Dana 60 vs 8-3/4
590 vs mushroom cams
And let's not forget pinion angles

People that have a firm grasp on their Purple Shaft.

Funny thing about them 2nd gen HEMIs,,,,,,either you have one,,,,,,,or you want one!

Hey don’t be making fun of my profile picture. Lol.

Hemi guys.....Actually been wanting to new Hemi build, so I am looking for a block.

That's why there are more chevy racers than mopar ones. You can build a chevy for 1/2 the price of a mopar (though you wouldn't look cool though).

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say some folks commenting here have not ever built an all out Mopar piece, nor a BBC let alone both. The cost of the block is the only thing that is a tad more money the rest of the parts new are basically the same price. Switch to aluminum blocks and that narrows even more. The issue is going to be availability of the parts, vendors and the options one has. Having done both and owned both the ultimate power potential for the BBC is higher than an equivalent Mopar. But that has more to do with the potential bore size and stroke you can shove in a stock 4.84" BS Chevy VS a Mopar, and the options of available heads out there. You can get a stock bore space Chevy over 700", if you were so inclined and they actually have heads that can support that size engine and make power. Again the limitation is the available choices out there. I'm talking NA stuff of course, although the parts choices would also be true for serious nitrous guys I suspect.

Yes the price of the new Callies/Energy/MP block is more than double the Chevy block. Seems many here would complain if it were $3500, or even $3000. Seems to be a common issue with "mopar" guys, and yet they wonder why we don't have as many options as the other brands do. Yep its a stiff price tag. Hopefully the see some sales to make their investment worthwhile and maybe will offer more options and lower the price. I am skeptical that will happen as it has not in the past. Like Jim said for the price for me I would be inclined to go with aluminum but that's usually my direction now. I sold my last mega block in 2015 and have not looked back, well much anyway.

Hold on, lets stop the hp arms race, we know where that will end I believe these are targeted at the high end bracket engines, say a low 7 second rail for weekend big dollar brackets. 1000hp . I have never built a Mopar at that power level but have built 590" 9.800 deck, 636" 10.2 deck Chevys and someday will finish assembly on a 665" 10.72 deck Chevy. A 700+ " Chevy requires a 11.1 deck block. I don't think that would be cost effective at 1000hp. Just my 2 cents.

If you want to play be prepared to pay. Going fast cost big money in anything from an AMC to a chevy. I can’t tell you how many of my friends broke their Chevies last year. Many have two cars to keep going. Other beg, borrow, and steal cars to make the next big money event. You know the old story. Run 11’s pay me now. Run 9’s, 8’s, 7’s, keep on paying. I just finished up 5 years on an engine that can run 9.40’s and felt blessed it lasted that long. Reason number one is my class runs 1/8 mile at every track I race at. Reason number two, although I race a lot I don’t win a lot. Winning is hard on parts. Lol.

i have one on the shelf that says "IMPERIAL" i want to build someday, but i'm waiting for -itis to help me out footing the bill...................

You might be surprised at how much stroke you can stuff in a BBM soon.....A typical modern 235-242" 4 link car typically equipped these days are 1900-2000 is pounds plus or monus depending on the size of driver and equipment. 1000hp in a 2000lb car will get you 7.30's in an 1800lb car now you are running 7.0's but that would be a light 4 link car these days. But heavy for a non suspended car. Not many people run hardtails bracket racing anymore. But there are some. A good 565 will easily make 1000hp, we did one that runs 181 at 9.05 in vegas in a 2040lb American. Will run low 20's high teens in Vegas. Basically what out Mopar powered Racetech runs.

As for 700" plus as I said if one was so inclined. The point is you can buy a BBC from 9.0 deck to 11.2 if you were so inclined. Then you get into the 5",5.2" and 5.3" BS stuff which are purpose built race engines. A block from Donovan, with heads studs, will run you basically the cost of an Indy block. So I dont think including it in the discussion is out of line at all. Just my

Mopar guys are always accused of being cheap. But here are 2 big blocks that in my opinion have a smaller market than a BB Mopar. Both are less money. Now how can they do that? uhm?
Doug
460 Ford iron $2965
http://www.fordracingbyspeedshopdir...se_Bore_Wet_Sump_Block_p/M-6010-A460.htm
Pontiac Aluminum, $4495
https://butlerperformance.com/i-244...aluminum-block-std-deck-all-bpi-alb.html

Pontiac actually has more than one choice Kauffman makes a cast iron and aluminum block for them. Iron is $3195 aluminum is $4595. Butler does cast iron as well for $3495.

I hope Callies sells a fair number of the blocks and maybe reconsiders the price point. But for now it is what it is and if someone wants/needs one they now have the option.

This is what drives me crazy about Moparts and Mopar guys in general. I paid 4800.00 for an INDY MAXX block like 12-13 years ago ? Im far from rich, but can make some money at side jobs etc. IF you want to go fast, the block is the most money. YES everything else is pretty much the same, some thing here and there are more but hey, you want to play, you have to pay.....
Please enough already !!!

But yet they will spend 1000.00 to buy and machine a block for a girdle and fill it full of concrete. Lol.

The good thing is that now you can a least get a block. In the scheme of things block cost is a drop in the bucket. Add up the cost of the rest of a motor that will require a stronger block. Its the price we pay to be different.
Doug

do you suppose the chevy guys ever complain about the price of their parts!

[It was just announced that at the end of the three-day Engine Performance Expo, being held digitally, January 7-9, 2021, a complete LS short-block valued at over $10,000 will be given away at the end of the Expo to one of the show attendees]

Serious ?......can you really get a block?......i'v been on that train before and decided i what off. Seems they always talk but don't seem to walk

Kinda like the fancy Keith Black Racing Engines website that sells...wait for it... hats and t-shirts. No block to be seen.