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Re: Need opinion on block filler for cracked water jacket [Re: an8sec70cuda] #2857142
12/08/20 03:52 PM
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Hard to tell in the pic but if that crack goes to the soft plug hole, the stitch method may not work.

Re: Need opinion on block filler for cracked water jacket [Re: an8sec70cuda] #2857144
12/08/20 03:54 PM
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Thats the way I would try first.. stitch first then weld if needed
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Re: Need opinion on block filler for cracked water jacket [Re: B1MAXX] #2857202
12/08/20 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by B1MAXX
[quote=W.I.N. racing]From experience I can tell you that Block filler (HardBlock) will not prevent water from weeping through those cracks.

I agree with the above. I had a 440 block with similar cracks I filled the block with the Moroso block filler past the cracks and it still seeped..

I tried using block filler to stop water jackets leaks on a customers old Mopar cast iron top fuel block that had interior coolant leaks from grinding for clearances around the mains from a different owner.
I ended up having to use a liquid block sealer from Goodson that had to be pour into the block and then sealed up under pressure with a torque plate and water pump block off plates for 20 minutes and then baked in a oven at around 350 F for 20+ minutes after draining the sealer out of both sides one side at a time. It was reusable and it did a good job on fixing those coolant leaks. I did both sides first and then had the block cooked by a local powder coating shop, we pressure checked it at 30 Lbs. for 20 minutes before putting it back together.
The customer put that motor in a car and it is still running today as far as I know up

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Re: Need opinion on block filler for cracked water jacket [Re: Scully] #2857277
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Had a crack like that from a block left outside in a car,purchase some KW block seal and that stuff seal that crack up right before my eyes ran that block for another 14 years before replacing it.

Re: Need opinion on block filler for cracked water jacket [Re: racerx] #2857378
12/08/20 10:21 PM
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Disclaimer: I have never personally done this but I know of two individuals that have welded cast iron blocks with this stuff.

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Re: Need opinion on block filler for cracked water jacket [Re: Scully] #2857443
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hi

i have a friend that has a 440 block with a crack just like those !

it is actuau a 493 cu stroker .

we sealed it with a external epoxy .

if you pm me i will get the brand .

we cleaned the block paint off with a die grinder with wire brush , then hand scoured it with 60 grit sand paper .

put pressed epoxy on firmly and let it cure .

no more leaks ! 2 years + .

his crack extended to the freeze plug hole .

he races the car 6 - 8 times a year . <street car>

Re: Need opinion on block filler for cracked water jacket [Re: calrobb2000] #2857676
12/09/20 03:38 PM
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We are just south of Pittsburgh and we weld blocks and other cast parts

Re: Need opinion on block filler for cracked water jacket [Re: 6PakBee] #2857683
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Originally Posted by 6PakBee
Disclaimer: I have never personally done this but I know of two individuals that have welded cast iron blocks with this stuff.

Cast Iron Welding Rod

Sounds like silver solder, what’s used in home AC systems. Makes a strong joint

Re: Need opinion on block filler for cracked water jacket [Re: calrobb2000] #2857695
12/09/20 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by calrobb2000
hi

i have a friend that has a 440 block with a crack just like those !

it is actuau a 493 cu stroker .

we sealed it with a external epoxy .

if you pm me i will get the brand .

we cleaned the block paint off with a die grinder with wire brush , then hand scoured it with 60 grit sand paper .

put pressed epoxy on firmly and let it cure .

no more leaks ! 2 years + .

his crack extended to the freeze plug hole .

he races the car 6 - 8 times a year . <street car>



I witnessed my boss fix an exact crack as the op in his buddies freshly built 383 in a rr. Moroso a b epoxy, was still good yrs later when his buddy sold it.

Re: Need opinion on block filler for cracked water jacket [Re: B G Racing] #2857734
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Originally Posted by B G Racing
We are just south of Pittsburgh and we weld blocks and other cast parts
If all went well with no other cracks what would a weld up cost for a job like this, just ballpark.

Re: Need opinion on block filler for cracked water jacket [Re: Scully] #2857780
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Re: Need opinion on block filler for cracked water jacket [Re: Scully] #2857853
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Try Lock-n-Stitch as you can do it yourself.

I have used this product on my 440 when two cracks popped up in the water jackets. Cost at the time was around $100-$150 all in if I remember correctly. Knock on wood, but mine has been fine since fixing it around 8 yrs ago and I got a stout piece that puts out about 580HP.

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Re: Need opinion on block filler for cracked water jacket [Re: jb500] #2858394
12/11/20 09:50 AM
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^^^^^^this^^^^^^^^^^^^ done it several times without a single failure. One I did in 2006 is still running, and never leaked a drop. Irontite plugs.

Re: Need opinion on block filler for cracked water jacket [Re: Scully] #2858963
12/12/20 02:19 PM
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Usually $500+/- it all depends on the block condition and process

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