Looking for a good floor jack
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11/27/20 09:45 PM
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my old Sears jack has come up missing after almost 35 years. Now I'm going to have to find a replacement.
Looking for a 2.5 to 3 ton jack. No fancy stuff needed like one pump or aluminum. Must be reliable.
Anything actually fit those requirements today?
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Re: Looking for a good floor jack
[Re: Neil]
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11/27/20 10:28 PM
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hein werner and most of the other well known Jacks from years ago are all made by SHINN FU mfg and some of the assembly is done here allowing them to claim made in the USA. (I think they put the stickers on here LOL). Shinn Fu bought the rights to the names and consequently you have junk jacks at a premium price. How did I learn all this ?? It was a frustrating 1-2 years with at least 10 different "brand name" jacks that all failed within 1 day to 3 months.There are only a couple that still are one of which is the Milwaukee [url=http://www.milwaukeejack.com/products.html] LINK TO THEIR SITE[/url They have been making the exact same jacks since the mid 40's, but be prepared to pay for QUALITY!!!! I finally did after several go round with name brand jacks (like HW) purportedly being made in the USA.. I know have 3 Jacks, and 40+ year old 1-1/4 T Hein Werner, An OTC 3T Floor boss that is no longer being made , It was and is a USA made jack. and a Milwaukee model 20. On a side note a very good friend owns a Mom and Pop tire store locally. they have been in business since his Father opened it in the 20's. They do nothing but tires PERIOD!!!!! and a lot of them. Better than 70% are done with floor jacks he was buying Snap OFF jacks and they would make it a year if he was lucky. He happened to be be in harbor Freight just after they released their Daytona jacks. The manager talked him into trying 2 of them with a no questions asked money back guarantee. He said he gets 3-4 years out them at less than 1/3 the price of the Snap OFFS. If i were looking for a jack I'd buy one of them. HE should be a Jack testing station as they get USED and abused. 3 years at his place would easily exceed 20-30 years at my shop.
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Re: Looking for a good floor jack
[Re: 5thAve]
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11/27/20 11:30 PM
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Such a shame...Hein-Werner was a big employer here for years. About 15 miles from me. Their jacks always had a great reputation
https://www.wisconsinhistory.org/Records/Property/HI94404#:~:text=Hein%20was%20born%20in%20Germany,pumps%20for%20the%20automobile%20business.
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Re: Looking for a good floor jack
[Re: Dcuda69]
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11/28/20 12:18 AM
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I have the Harbor Freight Daytona 3 ton jack. The Jack that Snap on Tried to sue them over, and lost. It was about $189 a year or so ago and it has been really good. It has a great lifting height. What surprised me the most is this thing rolls beautifully, never have I had a floor jack that rolled so well.
I also have one of the small harbor freight aluminum jacks. It was $89 8 years ago. I bought that thing to go in my car for when I go to the races and change tires. It has held up surprisingly well, i kind of figured I would have to replace it every few years but its been great.
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Re: Looking for a good floor jack
[Re: Jim_Lusk]
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11/28/20 07:52 AM
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Looking like it's coming down to a Daytona or Milwaukee. I'll do a little investigating.
Edit, looks like the Milwaukee 20 might be out of production. Also forgot to mention a removable handle so it can be tossed in the trunk easily.
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Re: Looking for a good floor jack
[Re: Jim_Lusk]
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11/29/20 11:06 AM
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I think the choice comes down to roll the dice on whatever off shore crap is on sale or hunt down something old school and throw a couple parts at is as needed. There are companies out there selling parts and rebuild kits for old Hein Wiener jacks which are pretty much just the seals and according to youtube university, not that hard to rebuild. Craigs, FB, etc and be patient until the right deal comes along.
My straight up best snag was a 1 owner NAPA branded (probably HW built) manual end lift jack with a 36 inch lift. Takes up a bit of floor space but it's worth every square inch.
Also scored a HW high lift trans jack from the 60s for a C note. Should have beat him down over the leak but thought it was just an o-ring. Turned out to be a $50 valve and another $10 or $15 for a knob. An equivalent HF pittsburg is like $600.
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Re: Looking for a good floor jack
[Re: TJP]
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11/29/20 11:41 AM
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hein werner and most of the other well known Jacks from years ago are all made by SHINN FU mfg and some of the assembly is done here allowing them to claim made in the USA. (I think they put the stickers on here LOL). Shinn Fu bought the rights to the names and consequently you have junk jacks at a premium price. How did I learn all this ?? It was a frustrating 1-2 years with at least 10 different "brand name" jacks that all failed within 1 day to 3 months.There are only a couple that still are one of which is the Milwaukee [url=http://www.milwaukeejack.com/products.html] LINK TO THEIR SITE[/url They have been making the exact same jacks since the mid 40's, but be prepared to pay for QUALITY!!!! I finally did after several go round with name brand jacks (like HW) purportedly being made in the USA.. I know have 3 Jacks, and 40+ year old 1-1/4 T Hein Werner, An OTC 3T Floor boss that is no longer being made , It was and is a USA made jack. and a Milwaukee model 20. On a side note a very good friend owns a Mom and Pop tire store locally. they have been in business since his Father opened it in the 20's. They do nothing but tires PERIOD!!!!! and a lot of them. Better than 70% are done with floor jacks he was buying Snap OFF jacks and they would make it a year if he was lucky. He happened to be be in harbor Freight just after they released their Daytona jacks. The manager talked him into trying 2 of them with a no questions asked money back guarantee. He said he gets 3-4 years out them at less than 1/3 the price of the Snap OFFS. If i were looking for a jack I'd buy one of them. HE should be a Jack testing station as they get USED and abused. 3 years at his place would easily exceed 20-30 years at my shop. Any idea what model they are using? HF has over 15 Daytona jack models.
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Re: Looking for a good floor jack
[Re: 6PakBee]
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11/29/20 09:21 PM
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hein werner and most of the other well known Jacks from years ago are all made by SHINN FU mfg and some of the assembly is done here allowing them to claim made in the USA. (I think they put the stickers on here LOL). Shinn Fu bought the rights to the names and consequently you have junk jacks at a premium price. How did I learn all this ?? It was a frustrating 1-2 years with at least 10 different "brand name" jacks that all failed within 1 day to 3 months.There are only a couple that still are one of which is the Milwaukee [url=http://www.milwaukeejack.com/products.html] LINK TO THEIR SITE[/url They have been making the exact same jacks since the mid 40's, but be prepared to pay for QUALITY!!!! I finally did after several go round with name brand jacks (like HW) purportedly being made in the USA.. I know have 3 Jacks, and 40+ year old 1-1/4 T Hein Werner, An OTC 3T Floor boss that is no longer being made , It was and is a USA made jack. and a Milwaukee model 20. On a side note a very good friend owns a Mom and Pop tire store locally. they have been in business since his Father opened it in the 20's. They do nothing but tires PERIOD!!!!! and a lot of them. Better than 70% are done with floor jacks he was buying Snap OFF jacks and they would make it a year if he was lucky. He happened to be be in harbor Freight just after they released their Daytona jacks. The manager talked him into trying 2 of them with a no questions asked money back guarantee. He said he gets 3-4 years out them at less than 1/3 the price of the Snap OFFS. If i were looking for a jack I'd buy one of them. HE should be a Jack testing station as they get USED and abused. 3 years at his place would easily exceed 20-30 years at my shop. Any idea what model they are using? HF has over 15 Daytona jack models. Don't know for sure but it was yellow as I recall. I can call him and ask if need be
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Re: Looking for a good floor jack
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11/29/20 10:05 PM
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hein werner and most of the other well known Jacks from years ago are all made by SHINN FU mfg and some of the assembly is done here allowing them to claim made in the USA. (I think they put the stickers on here LOL). Shinn Fu bought the rights to the names and consequently you have junk jacks at a premium price. FWIW, I bought a Hein Werner jack (that I believe is one of the Shinn Fu ones) about 10 years ago and I haven't had any problems with it yet. I admittedly don't use it daily or anything like that, but so far it has held up to a good bit of abuse. Of course, I've never owned one of the older Hein Werner jacks, so I can't compare.
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Re: Looking for a good floor jack
[Re: ruderunner]
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11/30/20 12:19 PM
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I went through this a few years ago looking for a replacement for a mid '90s 3 ton Craftsman I have. Still haven't picked one up yet as my smaller 1 ton units have been holding up okay. Glad to hear the less expensive Daytonas are doing okay for some of you. In all honesty, the failure point of these jacks are in the ram assembly. Maybe we should ask the question around what jacks have replaceable ram assemblies in them instead of which ones hold up the longest. Funny thing is, trying to look this up, I find plenty of places that sell parts and rebuild kits but I'm not having much success in locating a complete ram assembly. Obviously jacks are built with these as a component, but finding someone who list them as a replacement part seems impossible. Maybe I'm not searching with the best terms. In that vein, I notice Summit sells a Sunnex replacement ram for $100. https://www.summitracing.com/parts/...GmtKq7QIVCuWzCh1-DAomEAQYASABEgL3JvD_BwELooking up the compatible jack I find this: https://www.summitracing.com/parts/sxt-66037 for $255 and a low profile for $320 (on sale for $288): https://www.summitracing.com/parts/sxt-66035sj?rrec=trueBut if you can replace the whole jack for $120 with a Harbor Freight unit, is it worth the hassle?
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