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Re: "New" car recommendations [Re: oldjonny] #2842060
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Originally Posted by oldjonny
Not sure why there is a stigma to the cost to repair makes like Honda or Toyota. I own both. Both are INCREDIBLY reliable (272K on my current driver). Cheap to fix if anything ever does go wrong with them. I do have to admit though, we bought a brand new Honda CRV last winter (wife's old one got totaled from some moron). I really, really do not like all of the current technology on them. Just way to much junk and its all stuff that will be the failure items in the future. I will keep driving the old, reliable super simple ones because I can still fix them without having to own a ton of complicated scanners and interface devices.


Have had a few Hondas as drivers and for the wife. She still drives a 16 CRV and loves it. Have had no issues, but it's just not my style , and would like a little more power and sacrifice some MPG.


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Re: "New" car recommendations [Re: MONC] #2842113
11/05/20 12:48 PM
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I had a Cherokee Trailhawk this week as a loaner car. I liked the looks of it but man did it suck to drive. Having the climate control system a weird hybrid of half linked into the infotainment system and half manual buttons was irritating. Maybe I'm just too used to driving stick where when you push the pedal the vehicle responds but the lag time on the transmission in that Jeep was the same as the beater 2006 F150 shop truck I use at work. I'm used to driving a 4cyl crossover SUV and the trailhawk with the v6 felt equally gutless.

I don't get the Subaru love. I've had a couple. Mediocre reliability and longevity. Poor fuel mileage for the size of vehicle. Their main redeeming feature was I could buy ones in need of a mechanical or body repair and fix and flip for a good profit to the people who pay outrageous prices for those vehicles.

Honda and Toyota are great for resale value. If you're buying new or almost new I would go that way just because their longevity and reliability is so good and resale is so good. Not to mention if your car ever gets written off like mine did you actually get something for it versus something else that resale value drops like a stone. But because the resale value is so high on them I have a hard time buying them used. After my Honda was written off I bought a Kia with those funds and I have been largely satisfied with however the longevity is definitely not what the Honda was. I'm seeing wear on suspension components that would have taken a Honda another 60-80k miles to get to that point. I drive a lot of rough roads so front and rear suspensions are usually where I first start to see problems. In addition to interiors turning into rattle traps which is happening with the Kia but never happened with the Hondas.

IMO all the options now suck. I'm restoring an older Jeep that I plan to rust proof the hell out of and drive because I'm feeling done with all the newer junk.

Re: "New" car recommendations [Re: DaytonaTurbo] #2842137
11/05/20 01:25 PM
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When I first drove my wife's Cherokee 3.6 I was not impressed on it's take off from a stop. Until I found the A button which stops the engine from shutting off at a stop. Major response time difference.

Re: "New" car recommendations [Re: stumpy] #2842321
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Originally Posted by stumpy
When I first drove my wife's Cherokee 3.6 I was not impressed on it's take off from a stop. Until I found the A button which stops the engine from shutting off at a stop. Major response time difference.

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Had a 2015 sport with the 4 popper- unbeatable in snow, otherwise I absolutely hated this car. A few years later hopped Into a v6 version- huge difference. Good mileage and great power. Huge complaint- the 9 speed trans. Not a good combo for either engine in my opinion.

Stick to an SUV with a big engine and a reliable proven trans

Re: "New" car recommendations [Re: moparjim79] #2842328
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Re: "New" car recommendations [Re: stumpy] #2842365
11/05/20 11:18 PM
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My wife and daughter have 19 Cherokee Trailhawks..... pretty amazing off road capabilities.

Re: "New" car recommendations [Re: J_BODY] #2842379
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Has anyone said Ram?! Great in the winter. You feel secure. The 1500's drive as nice as most luxury cars and can handle rough roads too. And didnt the Limited win some luxury "car" award? I could never go back to an SUV and don't even understand why they make cars. With the price of gas who worries about mileage anymore. I'll trade mileage for safety. PS 2500's ride like dump trucks. AVOID smile Unless you need it for business and trailer pulling.

I need a new vehicle and will probably get something loaded and whatever model is below the Ram Limited. Looks like a Laramie. I just priced one for you and I. Damn thing costs as much as my FIRST HOUSE!!!! V8, towing package, 12" screen, leather, sun roof, radar, basically all the options. Oh and 4 wheel air suspension.


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Re: "New" car recommendations [Re: 71TA] #2842439
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that truck IS priced more than i paid for my house 10 years ago.

and the $800+ a month estimated is higher than my mortgage payment with taxes and insurance included.


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Re: "New" car recommendations [Re: 71TA] #2842467
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Originally Posted by 71TA
Has anyone said Ram?! Great in the winter. You feel secure. The 1500's drive as nice as most luxury cars and can handle rough roads too. And didnt the Limited win some luxury "car" award? I could never go back to an SUV and don't even understand why they make cars. With the price of gas who worries about mileage anymore. I'll trade mileage for safety. PS 2500's ride like dump trucks. AVOID smile Unless you need it for business and trailer pulling.

I need a new vehicle and will probably get something loaded and whatever model is below the Ram Limited. Looks like a Laramie. I just priced one for you and I. Damn thing costs as much as my FIRST HOUSE!!!! V8, towing package, 12" screen, leather, sun roof, radar, basically all the options. Oh and 4 wheel air suspension.



Ha, thanks for the suggestion TA , but still have my 96 Ram , don't feel another truck is warranted .
Besides, I would have to live in it at that price, lol .;)


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Re: "New" car recommendations [Re: DaytonaTurbo] #2842469
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Thanks for the feedback DT, appreciate your experience with multiple car makes .


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Re: "New" car recommendations [Re: Mr T2U] #2842470
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Originally Posted by Mr T2U
that truck IS priced more than i paid for my house 10 years ago.

and the $800+ a month estimated is higher than my mortgage payment with taxes and insurance included.


I'd like a truck but prices have just gone absolutely off the deep end. Big trucks and SUVs seem to be the only vehicles the big 3 can make a profit on, so they are milking those cows as much as they can.

The problem is that with the prices on new trucks so high, it's driving used prices up as well to points where they just don't make sense in some cases, either.


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Re: "New" car recommendations [Re: moparjim79] #2842471
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Originally Posted by moparjim79
Originally Posted by stumpy
When I first drove my wife's Cherokee 3.6 I was not impressed on it's take off from a stop. Until I found the A button which stops the engine from shutting off at a stop. Major response time difference.

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Had a 2015 sport with the 4 popper- unbeatable in snow, otherwise I absolutely hated this car. A few years later hopped Into a v6 version- huge difference. Good mileage and great power. Huge complaint- the 9 speed trans. Not a good combo for either engine in my opinion.

Stick to an SUV with a big engine and a reliable proven trans


Tend to agree with you Jim, was definitely thinking no less than V6 .


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Re: "New" car recommendations [Re: Mr T2U] #2843081
11/07/20 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr T2U
that truck IS priced more than i paid for my house 10 years ago.

and the $800+ a month estimated is higher than my mortgage payment with taxes and insurance included.




i have said for a million years, [well, it SEEMS that long laugh2] i won't pay more for a vehicle than we paid for this house. [built in 1872]
i guess that's why my "truck" is a 1999 caravan, and her car is a 1994 chrysler concorde. biggrin
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