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Re: Schumacher Creative - Engine-swaps.com - what happened?
[Re: Pacnorthcuda]
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08/19/20 12:22 PM
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larrymopar360
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If AndyF doesn't start fabricating some products, I wonder if there's any possibility of FirmFeel picking up some of the design and manufacturing of the gap in the market?
Facts are stubborn things.
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Re: Schumacher Creative - Engine-swaps.com - what happened?
[Re: Pacnorthcuda]
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08/19/20 05:16 PM
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jcc
If you can't dazzle em with diamonds..
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If you can't dazzle em with diamonds..
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Getting a patent is costly.
Enforcing a patent is almost cost prohibitive.
For a small business they are mainly for ego and a deterrence to the less informed.
So in my eyes, no real can of worms, and Andy for example with his legal background, likely already knows the loopholes. You sound like your business ethics are of the highest order! Sarcasm off. You appear to be prone to confirmation bias, no sarcasm needed.
"When one’s appeal is emotional, it does not matter if there is no substance."
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Re: Schumacher Creative - Engine-swaps.com - what happened?
[Re: pittsburghracer]
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08/19/20 06:53 PM
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AndyF
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Are his products patented. That could be opening a can of worms. I'm pretty sure that motor mounts meet the "simple and obvious" exception to a patent. It is just a bent piece of steel with a rubber or poly isolator. People have been making them for at least 100 years. I'd be very surprised if the patent office granted Schumacher patents on any of his designs. I'm sure his business name is copyrighted but I wouldn't want to try and steal his name or counterfeit his packaging like the Chinese do. If I decided to make swap brackets I'd sell them as AR Engr products. I'd start with a clean sheet of paper and design the bracket from the ground up without copying anything that Schumacher designed. If he sued me I'd stop making the brackets. The Mopar market isn't big enough to justify a lawsuit. Patent attorneys aren't going to get excited over winning a few thousand dollars in damages.
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Re: Schumacher Creative - Engine-swaps.com - what happened?
[Re: AndyF]
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08/20/20 11:03 AM
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John_Kunkel
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Are his products patented. That could be opening a can of worms. I'm pretty sure that motor mounts meet the "simple and obvious" exception to a patent. There is a term in U.S. patent application called "prior art". If it's obvious or just a variation of something already in existence, it can't be patented.
The INTERNET, the MISinformation superhighway
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Re: Schumacher Creative - Engine-swaps.com - what happened?
[Re: John_Kunkel]
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08/21/20 08:41 AM
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jcc
If you can't dazzle em with diamonds..
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If you can't dazzle em with diamonds..
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Are his products patented. That could be opening a can of worms. I'm pretty sure that motor mounts meet the "simple and obvious" exception to a patent. There is a term in U.S. patent application called "prior art". If it's obvious or just a variation of something already in existence, it can't be patented. "Loopholes", for the ethically sensitive.
"When one’s appeal is emotional, it does not matter if there is no substance."
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Re: Schumacher Creative - Engine-swaps.com - what happened?
[Re: jcc]
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12/11/20 12:29 PM
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John_Kunkel
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Good news, USCT Motorsports has been licensed to produce Schumacher's products. http://store.uscartool.com/
The INTERNET, the MISinformation superhighway
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Re: Schumacher Creative - Engine-swaps.com - what happened?
[Re: Pacnorthcuda]
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12/11/20 03:40 PM
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SRT6776
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I hate internal combustion engines!
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Getting a patent is costly.
Enforcing a patent is almost cost prohibitive.
For a small business they are mainly for ego and a deterrence to the less informed.
So in my eyes, no real can of worms, and Andy for example with his legal background, likely already knows the loopholes. You sound like your business ethics are of the highest order! Sarcasm off. Its an aftermarket motor mount for a Chrysler product, the judge would laugh.
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Re: Schumacher Creative - Engine-swaps.com - what happened?
[Re: 70sixpkrt]
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01/01/21 01:13 PM
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bigdad
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US car tool is making them now ... www.usctmotorsports.com
Last edited by bigdad; 01/01/21 01:13 PM.
The lips of fools bring them strife, and their mouths invite a beating.Proverbs 18:6
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Re: Schumacher Creative - Engine-swaps.com - what happened?
[Re: Sniper]
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01/01/21 02:07 PM
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bigdad
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You would have to call them they have not updated the website yet..but, its true
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The lips of fools bring them strife, and their mouths invite a beating.Proverbs 18:6
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