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Re: Schumacher Creative - Engine-swaps.com - what happened? [Re: ns1aar] #2776743
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Originally Posted by ns1aar
About a month ago I talked to him and he said he was giving it up and moving near the water

That sucks. Hopefully someone takes up the business. I'll run it, but the commute would kill me!


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Re: Schumacher Creative - Engine-swaps.com - what happened? [Re: OhioMopar] #2778687
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I have been trying to locate the big block mount kit for a 92 Dakota for about 3 years now.

I spoke to Shumacher about them when I first stated looking because Mancini still listed them, but when I placed the order it was canceled.

When I talked to Shumacher he really didn't seem to care that people were looking for the parts. And stated he had no intention to produce any.

I also asked him if he would consider selling the design so I could get a set made, and he just flat out refused.

I know there are a lot of guys looking for the 1st gen Dakota mounts. I can understand that they may not have sold well when he first produced them 15-20 years ago. But now that the Dakota is a cheap to get and popular little truck, this is the time to have the kits.

If anyone knows of a company that is selling the kits please post it.


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Re: Schumacher Creative - Engine-swaps.com - what happened? [Re: hp383] #2778735
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I have been trying to locate the big block mount kit for a 92 Dakota for about 3 years now.


I've got one that's just sitting on the shelf. I mocked up the engine and got it running back in 05. Then I met my future wife and the truck sat in the garage until last fall. I pulled everything off the truck and sold it to a friend who needed the frame. I've got the engine/frame brackets and mounts, the trans bracket and mount, oil pan/pickup, exhaust manifolds, exhaust pipes and two piece driveshaft.(extended cab) PM me.


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Re: Schumacher Creative - Engine-swaps.com - what happened? [Re: burdar] #2778789
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I need to put a magnum 360 into a 68 A body and I understand one of the mounts needs a triangle shaped piece w a hole in it added to one of mounts....When I modify one for mine, I'm thinking about making more of them....Any interest? They guy that was doing this years ago has stopped. He was charging $55. I think $75 would be fair today.....


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Re: Schumacher Creative - Engine-swaps.com - what happened? [Re: HemiRick] #2778824
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If somebody has a kit they should get it to somebody who will reproduce them. Maybe the company that makes the frame caps? work


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Re: Schumacher Creative - Engine-swaps.com - what happened? [Re: Rhinodart] #2778832
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Its been 18 years since I talked to Mike Schumacher. I bought a few items over the years. Back then he did not show the desire for the biz anymore. Sometimes a person will just walk away.

Not sure if he patented or trademarked any items. If not and he does not want to make any....


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Re: Schumacher Creative - Engine-swaps.com - what happened? [Re: Rhinodart] #2778849
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Originally Posted by Rhinodart
If somebody has a kit they should get it to somebody who will reproduce them. Maybe the company that makes the frame caps? work


Last I heard they were cutting back on a lot of their items too and that was before the pandemic started.

Re: Schumacher Creative - Engine-swaps.com - what happened? [Re: 5thAve] #2802559
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Has anyone heard if someone else might start making new engine mount kits? Can't find anything to put a 426 hemi in an E body unless you have a hemi K frame.

Re: Schumacher Creative - Engine-swaps.com - what happened? [Re: AndyF] #2808944
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He quit and moved to the coast


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Re: Schumacher Creative - Engine-swaps.com - what happened? [Re: DavesSledshop] #2808961
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Al Debevic in Wisconsin makes hemi k-frames, you can also get them through Megaparts I believe...


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Re: Schumacher Creative - Engine-swaps.com - what happened? [Re: ns1aar] #2808966
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Originally Posted by ns1aar
He quit and moved to the coast


Wish he would have sold it to someone or something.

Re: Schumacher Creative - Engine-swaps.com - what happened? [Re: Sniper] #2808975
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Doesn't sound like it made much money if he gave up on it that easy

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Originally Posted by SRT6776
Doesn't sound like it made much money if he gave up on it that easy


Or it made so much money he can retire in style. shruggy


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Re: Schumacher Creative - Engine-swaps.com - what happened? [Re: John_Kunkel] #2809734
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I tried to buy the business but we could not come up with a deal we were both happy with.


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Re: Schumacher Creative - Engine-swaps.com - what happened? [Re: tallzag] #2809738
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Originally Posted by tallzag
I tried to buy the business but we could not come up with a deal we were both happy with.


So he shut the doors and didn't get a dime for the business, instead of working out a deal with you? Makes no sense... realcrazy

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Originally Posted by 318 Stroker
Originally Posted by tallzag
I tried to buy the business but we could not come up with a deal we were both happy with.


So he shut the doors and didn't get a dime for the business, instead of working out a deal with you? Makes no sense... realcrazy


Maybe he was like one of those guys with a rotting classic car that wanted top dollar or he'd just crush it to spite people?
I bought a few things from him. Great quality. He filled a need that many of us still have.

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Originally Posted by tallzag
I tried to buy the business but we could not come up with a deal we were both happy with.


I've talked to a couple of different guys who talked to Mike about buying his business. They all said he was unrealistic on the price. I have no interest in the business but I could easily duplicate some of the stuff he was making. I guess if nobody buys the business I'll eventually take a look at making some of the swap parts since people really need those brackets. I have a BB A-body car, I have a CAD station and I have a press brake so I pretty much everything I need to build swap brackets.

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You don't buy a business like that unless he has a bazillion hours tied up in exotic jigs and engineering time that you can't figure out yourself. Its engine mounts and not space station components so someone with steel fab skills can make those happen if they have something to copy from.


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Originally Posted by 318 Stroker
Originally Posted by tallzag
I tried to buy the business but we could not come up with a deal we were both happy with.


So he shut the doors and didn't get a dime for the business, instead of working out a deal with you? Makes no sense... realcrazy


iagree

Re: Schumacher Creative - Engine-swaps.com - what happened? [Re: Neil] #2809938
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About half of his stuff is what I would call ‘common parts’ that were replacement for factory parts. The rest were for basic hotrod applications. The common parts could be made by anyone and will be easy for someone to make. The hotrod parts may be a source for someone wanting to branch out in making specialty parts. I don’t see a patten being put on those, so I bet we will soon see a bunch of Chinese knock-offs in the near future.

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