Re: 46rh Governor Questions
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09/05/20 04:20 PM
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The VB has an updated Sonnax kit installed. I will go find the specs that they gave me. Ok, here they are: Upgraded Manual Valve, Upgraded Switch Valve, Upgraded Pressure Regulator Valve, all Solenoids are tested, rebuilt or replaced with new.
Unfortunately, I won't be the one installing this. I'm not set up to do it. My mechanic has been doing this for 30 plus years, so I hope he verifies that everything is flowing. If not, I can do this once I get the truck back home, its only a five minute drive. Is it common for the anti-drain down valve to be stuck after a rebuild?
A new cooler is going in, but I'm reusing the same lines. As of right now the fluid in the old unit is still bright, and when I had the pan down it had no bad sludging or metal flakes. My mechanic said he'd blow the lines out with compressed air, to check for any blockages.
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Re: 46rh Governor Questions
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09/07/20 02:26 PM
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i believe you have an A500 transmission. if the unit is in good repair, a shift kit should solve your problem. just my opinion, your mileage will vary.
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Re: 46rh Governor Questions
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Update on the transmission project.
Took the truck to mechanic's shop, tuesday before last. Popped in today to find out why I hadn't gotten any news. Found out he'd just moved the truck, with the transmission in the bed, over to his side open lot, and left it sitting in the back the entire time, and through the hurricane. He said "It was covered." I had covered the ends with heavy garbage bags and wrapped a tarp around it.
I pulled the bags off when I drove the truck back home and didn't see any signs of water inside the bags, around the seals, or anywhere near the entrances.
Do I pull the transmission apart to check everything, or do I sound ok? Please advise, I do not want all of my work to be in vain.
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Re: 46rh Governor Questions
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09/19/20 12:26 PM
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So, just to be safe I went and dropped the pan.
The valvebody and filter were dripping water after I unbolted them.
I have the case and OD unit apart, and have pulled everything in the main case, am drying, and cleaning. Next I will pull the OD unit and double check that everyhing is dry. Hey, at least I get to double check the orientation of the thrust bearings again.
Do I need to take the valvebody completely apart or just soak in mineral spirits? It came full of test fluid from the valve body shop and was wet with it when I put it in.
As always, I will follow any advice you have for me.
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Re: 46rh Governor Questions
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Thank you! That is happening tomorrow. I will carefully split it open and do exactly what you recommended.
Do I need to be concerned about the solenoids?
I have been extremely careful about lint in this transmission. If I needed a rag for anything I used an old t shirt. I learned quickly that shop rags leave a ridiculous amount of lint.
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Re: 46rh Governor Questions
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09/30/20 07:24 PM
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The new shop installed the trans today. I could not be happier.
I cannot believe how much smoother and stronger this truck is, with a fresh rebuild. I followed your advice, all the way through, and it turned out perfectly.
The only thing that the trans does that makes me think I need to adjust something is when it shifts down to a stop, it feels like the kickdown band hangs for a split second, and it's lurched a couple of times when getting to a complete stop. Other times it just has it's normal little "bump" and then stop.
Other than that I cannot believe how smooth these shifts are. The fluid was nice and bright when I got home, and as I drove it (first low speed around town and then on the highway after about 10 miles) it felt like it settled in and the shifts were smooth and felt right on time.
Here's the old dirty trans in the back of the truck.
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Re: 46rh Governor Questions
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09/30/20 09:04 PM
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Normally you should not feel a downshift when coming to a stop. Usually when you do you have a sticky TP linkage setup. Kickdown band (2nd gear band) is only on in 2nd. When slowing down it should never engage unless you manually pull it in to 2nd or stay on the throttle while pulling a grade and force 2nd gear with throttle pressure.
Closed throttle coming to a stop if you really work at it you may feel a slight bump around 1-2 mph but that’s rare most of the time. Make sure the throttle pressure linkage is free and adjusted properly and a return spring is usually found on the TP lever to trans case.
Try shutting OD off and see if this bump disappears, it shouldn’t make a difference. The direct clutch in the OD unit comes on when OD come see off but the ORC in the OD should prevent any bump.
One other thing that I have seen is on two piece driveshafts the slip yoke at the center bearing can hang up on the splines. Coming to a stop and depending on rate of decel the yoke can hang up on the splines then snap free/forward giving you what feels like a shift.
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