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Re: Steel or wood garage? [Re: astjp2] #2789223
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Originally Posted by astjp2
Well I am contemplating a 50x80, going big enough to put everything out of the sun and snow...pole barn was my first choice up until I realized that I have a high water table at 3' below grade, so I will just do a steel building on pilings


50x80 is bit for a wood building, especially if you want clear spans. If you can live with poles in the middle of the building then wood would probably work. My shop is 50x60 and the engineer said I need to go steel in order to have clear span beams that would support a 1 ton bridge crane. Wood wasn't even in the running.

Re: Steel or wood garage? [Re: roadntrack] #2789225
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Originally Posted by roadntrack
Mine will just be a 12x28 Main concern is condensation with steel vs wood


Condensation is not a problem if you insulate the building. If you leave the exterior panels exposed to the inside of the building with zero insulation then you'll have a problem. But that won't be your only problem since your heat bill will also be sky high.

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Don't mean to hijack, but those that have steel garages that have traditional pitch (6 or 7/12) and decent overhangs, did you choose a specific company or was your contractor able to provide these options. Most steel garages I find have more flat roof pitches and no overhang. I need a building that is HOA friendly, but the manufacturers haven't been helpful.

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Overhangs are a good subject. That is one place where steel makes it easy. The steel building company that I worked with just asked me if I wanted overhangs and how big I wanted them. I had a medium overhang in the front so I can unload a truck without getting wet in the rain. At the rear of the building I went with the max allowed overhang to provide a carport/RV parking area. I also asked them to finish the underside of the overhangs with a contrasting color just to make it look nice. They mounted lights on the rear overhang area so I can see what I'm doing in the dark.

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That is a big overhang for a snow load.

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Originally Posted by Superfreak
That is a big overhang for a snow load.


I don't think the guy who asked about overhangs cares about snow loads.

Re: Steel or wood garage? [Re: AndyF] #2789262
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Originally Posted by AndyF
That look nice. I see that you used a steel interior in your wood building. That is a good idea in a shop since the steel siding will stand up to more abuse than drywall. It is a little harder to install though.

Thanks, The inside walls are 7/16 OSB covered with Steel for fire proofing and as you stated durability. Also ease of clean up...hose and a mop...just gotta get to it. My Plasma table makes a brown mess of everything.


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Did you insulate under the OSB? If so, that would make for a very nice shop. Insulation, then OSB and then a steel liner on top would be a heck of a combo.

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Originally Posted by AndyF
Did you insulate under the OSB? If so, that would make for a very nice shop. Insulation, then OSB and then a steel liner on top would be a heck of a combo.

there is 7/16 OSB on the exterior with Tyvec, 6" fiberglass in the walls. a 4 mil vapor barrier and then additional 7/16 OSB. The Steel screwed directly to the OSB. The building is tighter than a Zip Lock bag. I have radiant floor heat that cost less than $100/mo to keep 2000sq at 60deg 24/7. Turning on the lights raised the room temp 3 degs
Again thank you. I am proud of this shed, I designed and built all aspects (except the concrete - I let younger backs do that) from the building lay out, electrical and heating system and the only thing I would change is the concrete contractor... long story - poor workman ship

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Re: Steel or wood garage? [Re: roadntrack] #2789770
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I built a hybrid steel truss garage 30x40 about 10 years ago. Gives you the benefits of both wood and steel buildings Did all the work myself except concrete.
I heat with a wood a stove since I have endless amounts firewood. It does seem strong had a tornado come through the backyard a few years ago and no damage.
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One nice feature that accidentally happened was I ended up with a loading dock in the back. It is nice to being able to backup and roll large items out my pickup.

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This video was interesting and the person that did it talks about the cost to complete everything on the metal building.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwgeRgl8YZI

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Originally Posted by GMP440


This video was interesting and the person that did it talks about the cost to complete everything on the metal building.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwgeRgl8YZI



That is a really bare bones low end building. More of a storage shed than a shop. Better than nothing though, that is for sure.

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What metal building companies have you guys used? I’ve seen a few negative reviews on some for leaking, like Eagle. I am looking as well to do a 30 X 40. I do like the overhang for shade, how deep can it be made?

I think I would like to use spray foam insulation, walls and ceiling too.

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I used OPC here in Oregon. They aren't going to be much help where you are at but there is probably somebody similar in your area.
https://www.oregonpacificconstruction.com/index.html

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Originally Posted by AndyF
Originally Posted by GMP440


This video was interesting and the person that did it talks about the cost to complete everything on the metal building.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwgeRgl8YZI



That is a really bare bones low end building. More of a storage shed than a shop. Better than nothing though, that is for sure.


A buddy of mine has one of those. I call it the glorified shed.

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