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Attention EFI Users #2770898
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I’m getting ready to pop the fuse in ordering an EFI setup. I’ve watched numerous Utube vids on Fitec, Holley Sniper and the Edelbrock system. My biggest concern is customer service. Any comments concerning the customer service for each?

I have a 74 D100 with a 318 auto which is my mule for setting up a system.

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Re: Attention EFI Users [Re: dart4forte] #2770905
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I've installed a FiTech in my in-law's Truck. It runs quite well but the interface is pretty clunky.

When it's time to put one in my Warlock, I'll give Holley a try. A huge amount of the installation troubles are user induced, primarily around RFI/noise and adjustments that need to be made by the user.


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Re: Attention EFI Users [Re: GoodysGotaCuda] #2770913
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I'm running the Holley HP unit... holley has both a call service and a very good on line service
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Re: Attention EFI Users [Re: dart4forte] #2770932
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If you are worried about customer service, go with the Holley. They have had the best I've dealt with on all different units. FiTech has been iffy at times.

Re: Attention EFI Users [Re: dart4forte] #2770974
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I'd recommend buying a factory refurbished Sniper for $800. Add the Hyperspark distributor so you can control timing and you'll be all set. You'll also need a high pressure pump. In tank is preferred but that might not be an option on a pickup truck.
https://www.holley.com/products/fue...refurbished_-_sniper_efi/parts/FR550-510

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Originally Posted by GoodysGotaCuda
I've installed a FiTech in my in-law's Truck. It runs quite well but the interface is pretty clunky.

When it's time to put one in my Warlock, I'll give Holley a try. A huge amount of the installation troubles are user induced, primarily around RFI/noise and adjustments that need to be made by the user.


That is true. I visit the Holley Sniper forum on a regular basis and many if not most of the problems that people have are because they didn't read the instructions. People bolt them on and start playing with them and then it doesn't run. Installing EFI isn't the same as bolting on a carb. It is more like getting a new laptop to work. Things need to be connected properly and the files have to be loaded into the right spot and the cables have to be routed correctly. It isn't difficult to do, it just has to be done correctly.

Re: Attention EFI Users [Re: AndyF] #2770996
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If I were to buy one of the Throttle Body units on the Market today It would no doubt be the Holley.


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Re: Attention EFI Users [Re: Bad340fish] #2771005
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Another vote for Holley. I have a Holley Dominator EFI on our Hellcat swapped 71 Barracuda, and just installed a Holley Sniper and Hyperspark distributor on a friends 66 Mustang. Customer service and tech were fantastic.

Re: Attention EFI Users [Re: AndyF] #2771039
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Originally Posted by AndyF
I'd recommend buying a factory refurbished Sniper for $800. Add the Hyperspark distributor so you can control timing and you'll be all set. You'll also need a high pressure pump. In tank is preferred but that might not be an option on a pickup truck.
https://www.holley.com/products/fue...refurbished_-_sniper_efi/parts/FR550-510


A little off the intended subject I was looking at the intank fuel pump and it seems that the inline pump would be the way to go. The only complaint I’ve heard on the inline is the noise. I have a Tanks Inc. 16 gallon located behind the rear end and can always switch later if the inline doesn’t work.


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Re: Attention EFI Users [Re: dart4forte] #2771045
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Installing a Holley Sniper right now. All seems to be pretty good but I was a tad bit surprised to find out the CPU learning curve is about 500 miles. On the other hand, maybe not.


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Re: Attention EFI Users [Re: dart4forte] #2771064
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We've done both Sniper and Fi Tech. They both worked well and had little to no issue with either twocents

Thinking about it, I wouldn't be surprised if Holley winds up owning FI Tech, That seems to be a common tactic when they have strong competition whistling beer

Re: Attention EFI Users [Re: TJP] #2771135
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Do NOT route any of the wiring close to any plug wires or the alternator.

A friend of mine learned this the hard way on a Sniper install. He's pretty OCD about making things look like factory and he had to tear it all out to reroute everything. Tough way to learn all about EMI and RFI lol.

He said there was no mention in the installation manual about it either tho they may have updated that if they've had enough complaints.

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Hasn't arrived yet and I still to finish the engine build, but my son came over last night and ordered the Holley Sniper and distributor for his 440. Still have more stuff to get, but this time around the 440 will have more cam along with fuel injection. Hydraulic clutch setup, too. Still considering power steering so that it will be easier for his wife to drive it plus we don't have any real good manual boxes...

Re: Attention EFI Users [Re: Jim_Lusk] #2771277
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I sell and support Holley EFI. I DO answer the phone too!

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how does the sniper system act with 260/270 duration @ 50 cams ?
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FiTech's Customer Service SUCKS!


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What about mounting the Sniper to a Performer. I also saw a vid where a duel plane screws with the MAP sensor. Have to add a spacer or cut down the intakes divider. Is this true?

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Re: Attention EFI Users [Re: Mopar_Rich] #2771628
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Originally Posted by Mopar_Rich
I sell and support Holley EFI. I DO answer the phone too!

do you still support FAST also, the biggest piece of crap ever produced, that I spend thousands ,because you also supported, all I ever heard from them was your out of warranty,as my quad driver failed twice,and flooded the motor .... met with u at Carlilse years ago and you had no answers,and I was not the the only one, every one was having problems, you just blew it off.....PATHETIC....

Re: Attention EFI Users [Re: moparx] #2771684
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Originally Posted by moparx
how does the sniper system act with 260/270 duration @ 50 cams ?
beer


The Sniper must be manually tuned to handle low vacuum cams, but I do it all the time. Most people don't even know that the Sniper can be tuned with a laptop because they bought the Sniper in order TO NOT use a laptop, but it does have that capability. It has saved many people from having to go out and buy a higher end product.

Re: Attention EFI Users [Re: 70Challengerse] #2771687
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Originally Posted by 70Challengerse
Originally Posted by Mopar_Rich
I sell and support Holley EFI. I DO answer the phone too!

do you still support FAST also, the biggest piece of crap ever produced, that I spend thousands ,because you also supported, all I ever heard from them was your out of warranty,as my quad driver failed twice,and flooded the motor .... met with u at Carlilse years ago and you had no answers,and I was not the the only one, every one was having problems, you just blew it off.....PATHETIC....


FAST was one of the leaders 10-15 years ago and their higher end XFI products still work, and yes I am one of the ONLY people that still answer the phone and I will support a FAST user if they have one of the higher end products. FAST made a mistake with the lower end systems. There's nothing I can do for an EZ user where I cannot get into the software. 99.9% of my sales are other products, such as Holley, but I still want to help if I can. So I actually DO answer the phone and I'm proud to be known for that.

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