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Re: guy insists his 66 Coronet is pos ground. [Re: 71TA] #2772087
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Starter will work either way, as will any motor in the car. BTDT when I converted my 51 to 12V negative ground from 6v positive ground. No radio in the car so that wasn't an issue. I did swap out the gauges to an aftermarket setup so I dunno about them.

Re: guy insists his 66 Coronet is pos ground. [Re: Sniper] #2772099
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Chrysler changed over to a negative ground in 1956 except for a few late model Imperials
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Re: guy insists his 66 Coronet is pos ground. [Re: Sniper] #2772130
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Originally Posted by Sniper
Starter will work either way, as will any motor in the car. BTDT when I converted my 51 to 12V negative ground from 6v positive ground. No radio in the car so that wasn't an issue. I did swap out the gauges to an aftermarket setup so I dunno about them.


I do not see how any 12 volt DC motor will spin the same direction when reversing polarity. This is exactly how power widows reverse to roll up and down . They may still work but when you push the button for up, they will go down and Vice-versa. And power door locks work this way too, power antenna will also work but in reverse.

I have used a Mopar starter as a electrical motor on a powered cement wheelbarrel. No bendix spring, direct drive, sprocket welded on the shaft. When 12 V Neg grounded it moved forward. When switched to Pos ground it backed up.

My observations over the years:
Radios may burn out.
Light bulbs do not care.
Ign Coils will spark backwards and burn out sparkplugs tips.
Gauges may reflect backwards.
Electric Puller fans will become Pushers.

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Re: guy insists his 66 Coronet is pos ground. [Re: Dave_J] #2772178
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You are welcome to come over and tell the starter on my 51 it's not behaving properly.

Series wound motors do not care about polarity. They turn the same direction regardless.

Re: guy insists his 66 Coronet is pos ground. [Re: Sniper] #2772200
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Permanent-magnet DC motors change direction with the polarity of the applied current. Wound-field motors do not, because the armature and field currents both reverse but not relative to each other.

Re: guy insists his 66 Coronet is pos ground. [Re: BSharp] #2772214
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Originally Posted by BSharp
Permanent-magnet DC motors change direction with the polarity of the applied current. Wound-field motors do not, because the armature and field currents both reverse but not relative to each other.


This. ^^^

Kevin

Re: guy insists his 66 Coronet is pos ground. [Re: Twostick] #2772220
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I just looked it up. laugh

Re: guy insists his 66 Coronet is pos ground. [Re: HemiRick] #2772399
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Wait....does his car also have a reverse rotation 383 Hemi 12 pack with a 727 Turbo and a posi locker detroit sure grip rear end?

I think I know the guy (he used to call the Mopar Tech Line).


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Re: guy insists his 66 Coronet is pos ground. [Re: HemiRick] #2772419
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Originally Posted by HemiRick
We've got a new member of our local mopar club and he insists his 66 Coronet is pos ground. the pos cable is going to the block and the neg to the starter he says...Is he badly mistaken?...How is this possible?

Thanks for your thoughts
Rick


You guys should make it a requirement to join your club that members have some basic automotive knowledge. He’s going to be a reflection of your club when he’s out representing you. Somebody needs to school the young man.


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Re: guy insists his 66 Coronet is pos ground. [Re: dart4forte] #2772422
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Originally Posted by dart4forte
Originally Posted by HemiRick
We've got a new member of our local mopar club and he insists his 66 Coronet is pos ground. the pos cable is going to the block and the neg to the starter he says...Is he badly mistaken?...How is this possible?

Thanks for your thoughts
Rick


You guys should make it a requirement to join your club that members have some basic automotive knowledge. He’s going to be a reflection of your club when he’s out representing you. Somebody needs to school the young man.


see Zippy's response, that is what I think when I hear car club lol


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Re: guy insists his 66 Coronet is pos ground. [Re: dart4forte] #2772564
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Originally Posted by dart4forte
Originally Posted by HemiRick
We've got a new member of our local mopar club and he insists his 66 Coronet is pos ground. the pos cable is going to the block and the neg to the starter he says...Is he badly mistaken?...How is this possible?

Thanks for your thoughts
Rick


You guys should make it a requirement to join your club that members have some basic automotive knowledge. He’s going to be a reflection of your club when he’s out representing you. Somebody needs to school the young man.


There are those in this hobby that don't turn their own wrenches. He might be one of them.


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Re: guy insists his 66 Coronet is pos ground. [Re: MarkZ] #2772568
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Ask your new fellow club member, if he hangs out with JJ Da Boss? work


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Re: guy insists his 66 Coronet is pos ground. [Re: RoadRunnerLuva] #2772582
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I've met JJ and he's not near as redneck IRL as portrayed on TV, actually seems to me to be a smart guy.

Found out the guy w the Coronet is in Southern Missouri about a couple hours away from Memphis....If he was in town I was going to go look.


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Re: guy insists his 66 Coronet is pos ground. [Re: dart4forte] #2772588
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Originally Posted by dart4forte

You guys should make it a requirement to join your club that members have some basic automotive knowledge. He’s going to be a reflection of your club when he’s out representing you. Somebody needs to school the young man.


Nobody mentioned the age of this person, just that he was a new member.
Age is no reflection of intelligence either. I have met smart and stupid of all ages. It is especially sad when it is an older person though.
Backing up slightly, you can't mandate intellect for new members. Part of the reason that some join a club is to learn. I was in a car club after I bought my Duster. I was 25 and didn't know much. I'm still learning. Aren't we all ?

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Re: guy insists his 66 Coronet is pos ground. [Re: HemiRick] #2772675
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Originally Posted by HemiRick
I've met JJ and he's not near as redneck IRL as portrayed on TV, actually seems to me to be a smart guy.

Found out the guy w the Coronet is in Southern Missouri about a couple hours away from Memphis....If he was in town I was going to go look.


Well to me, I guess he is smart enough to snag a TV show, that seems to be more popular than the OG Street Outlaws show ?
His son though "doughboy"...he is, or at least plays the part really good, of a stone cold redneck! laugh2


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