The Fox shocks very well could be better than Bilsteins, especially the adjustable ones. But the Koni shocks are adjustable too so that might be a better comparison. I think it is great that someone in the past at Hotchkis developed the Fox shocks for Mopar applications. I'm not going to buy them for my car though since they are expensive and because nobody currently at Hotchkis seems to be able to provide accurate technical information for Mopar cars.

we run in 3 endurance series and I don't think I've seen any Hotchkis shocks, but I do see lots of yellow ones.
Maybe the drivers were just better.

Are you referring to Mopar specific offerings or are we now talking about across the board racing? I was specifically referring to classic Mopars. However; if I were building a vehicle that Hotchkis did not have a tuned application for; my first go to would be Bilstien as well, as the Widebody Challenger I drove at NASA Nationals last year was Bilstien equipped and we had factory support at the track. They make a fantastic product and are a great bunch of folks to spend the weekend at the track with, but teh bilstien shocks tuned by RCD leave a bit to be desired as was proved on the shaker rig.

As to classic mopars; we took our cars around the country and no one could come close unless they were running Hotchkis products. Other suspension manufactures went to the trouble of fielding ringer cars with ringer drivers...to no avail.

Andy,
I'm not sure what you specifically are expecting from Hotchkis, but if you've got a concern or complaint I'd be happy to open a dialog with John about it.

Speed Safe guys!

My point was made earlier in the thread. If Hotchkis was serious about the Mopar market they would at least correct the information on their website. That is what started this thread. Hotchkis doesn't seem to understand which parts fit which vehicles. If they don't know what fits then why would people buy from them?

I agree with what Andy said and would like to ad FirmFeel Caters to the Mopar community and their products in house as well as parts branded from another vendor have been tested on a track on customers cars. Phone call is cheap.

all makes and models...

I can't answer that. But your best bet is to make a couple calls.
Many of posts that followed your question include some broad generalities, but none of us know what shocks will be best for your specific application.
Damping needs vary with vehicle weight, wheel weight (including brakes etc), spring rate and input. Input depends on use and traction.
Drag racing is a special situation. So again traction and use(s) are important.
Finally, any changes to the suspension that effect the extended and compressed length of the shock must be addressed.

Most shocks will cover a fairly wide range of uses decently for a fairly stock setup and uses.
If you are looking at competition or track use, and willing and able to put the time in, an adjustable shock might be for you.
In any case make some calls.
Avoid KYBs because their high frequency damping is terrible. Better off with something from your local parts store.
The shock has many jobs - not just the one that marketing video shows.


Fixed.
Nicely done marketing video.
Doesn't prove anything about your or 'the other guys' shocks on an A, B, or E body with x weight, z torsion bars, and u leafs.
All it means you guys have access to cool equipment to do some pretty good development of your products.


That's certainly was implied in the video and by the fact everyone calls them Fox shocks. And I have no doubt they may be assembled by Hotchkis.

I know Tim Werner assembled his own Bilsteins for Project Valiant. He had the access and did the measurements etc to make what he wanted.

Faster than what? Than what you started with? Yea. I'd hope so. You had some good development and a first class driver.
But if you are comparing with other mopars, in the same category, on the same track on the same day - lets see those lap times or qualifying times and speeds.
And as far as autocrosses go, maybe I missed it. My recollection was the autocross runs were exhibitions, but had been intending to run in CAM-T or SM. Would love to see you guys run in a National Tour or Pro-solo event. And CAM is made for you guys.

Uh yea. Bilsteins were what Werner was using. But his car was slow. OK. If you say so

Exactly.


Instead of putting down the other guys or arguing with Andy, just apoloize that its not on the website and point out which shocks you recommend for a typical e-body, or for an e-body with other Hotchkis components. Or that its custom and the OP needs to call.

To put a bow on all of this; The shocks are NOT discontinued and are available.

Jones Racing Products is like this. They make Mopar items that don't list in any of their magazines and when I stumbled upon the part numbers and spoke to someone, they were sorta surprised I requested they get added to the annual posting. I'm in the wrong business, noone begs to give me $.