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Re: Head gasket question [Re: Wirenut] #2755809
03/25/20 01:31 PM
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If your adjusters are 3/8x24 thread one full turn is .042 length increase or decrease, 1/4 turn is close to .0103 scope7/16x20 size is .050 per full turn up


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Re: Head gasket question [Re: Cab_Burge] #2755968
03/25/20 06:03 PM
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The 17059 is a Marine gasket.... has stainless steel internal solid core... and a wrap-around (folded) stainless steel combustion armor. Its actually a very durable head gasket for performance usage. NOTE: Stainless steel will not rust (marine environment, includes salt water).

The 1009 and 1039 are true racing intended gaskets -- they have a tin-plate internal solid core... but with stainless steel folded cylinder armors WITH an internal pre-flattened wire ring (racing intended!)... that creates a solid fire wall against detonation/pre-ignition hi-compression common problems.

The bore diameters can be a problem, pending how large you go.

Also, "casting holes" are always restricted by the head gaskets -- to control the flow pattern/direction and volume of coolant.

I'm a former Fel-Pro applications engineer... your questions are common.


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Re: Head gasket question [Re: Mopar Mitch] #2756011
03/25/20 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Mopar Mitch
The 17059 is a Marine gasket.... has stainless steel internal solid core... and a wrap-around (folded) stainless steel combustion armor. Its actually a very durable head gasket for performance usage. NOTE: Stainless steel will not rust (marine environment, includes salt water).

The 1009 and 1039 are true racing intended gaskets -- they have a tin-plate internal solid core... but with stainless steel folded cylinder armors WITH an internal pre-flattened wire ring (racing intended!)... that creates a solid fire wall against detonation/pre-ignition hi-compression common problems.

The bore diameters can be a problem, pending how large you go.

Also, "casting holes" are always restricted by the head gaskets -- to control the flow pattern/direction and volume of coolant.

I'm a former Fel-Pro applications engineer... your questions are common.


Thanks for weighing in. I appreciate your input . Sounds like I would be ok if I chose either of those two

Re: Head gasket question [Re: Cab_Burge] #2757727
03/30/20 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Cab_Burge
Do NOT use those gaskets on any block that the bore will be bigger than 4.320 tsk They where designed to be used on the 38 and 426 W blocks, not the 400 and 440 blocks scope Look at the standard Fel Pro # 8519 or a better race gasket from Cometic, SCE or one of the other race gasket companies that offer the bigger bore sizes scope up
When Mopar started using the 440 blocks in 1973 in the trucks and motorhome chassis they change head casting and blocks with those holes to allow water to circulate around the exhaust ports and valves for better cooling up The early 1009 gaskets didn't come with them either so you have a late set scope


I wonder if the 1009 gasket has been recently redesigned. I bought a pair of them to use on a 4.350 bore engine I am working on. After seeing this I took a closer look and I don't see a problem. Certainly not questioning Cab's experience but the ones I have look fine to me. Not sure what's the deal.

Re: Head gasket question [Re: Oldbracketracer] #2758386
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Ordered a1039.
Now have my push rods and should be fine

Re: Head gasket question [Re: Wirenut] #2758416
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Originally Posted by Wirenut
Ordered a1039.
Now have my push rods and should be fine





That’s a great gasket. I still have a couple in my stash but I moved on to Cometic gaskets for the builds I have now.


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