Re: Engine sits for about a weekend and have no oil pressure.
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You still have too much air volume before it gets to the pump.. 2 -12 lines is a lot Went out today. Started the car. One day later and I have oil pressure immediately. So why do I lose prime in 3 days? Wouldnt the oil drain out the filter overnight? Would a check valve at the lower -12an fitting on the pump prevent this from happening?
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Re: Engine sits for about a weekend and have no oil pressure.
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Wait 3 or 4 days now and see what happens then After rerouting the oil lines, I thought the problem was fixed. It isn't . Much better oil pressure but still takes a good 15 to 20 seconds to prime.
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Re: Engine sits for about a weekend and have no oil pressure.
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Did you ever measure the clearance between the pump cover and the rotors ?
Back on 3/15/2020 you said this all started after installing a Moroso filter.
Did you go back to a filter that never gave you problems?
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Re: Engine sits for about a weekend and have no oil pressure.
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Did you ever measure the clearance between the pump cover and the rotors ?
Back on 3/15/2020 you said this all started after installing a Moroso filter.
Did you go back to a filter that never gave you problems?
This problem Started after new Milodon oiling system and Moroso oil filter. Moroso was a breaking fine micron filter but changed it out to a regular Wix racing oil filter and pressure did go up to 82psi from 68psi cold.. Priming issue still the same enough. So it's not the oil filter.
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Re: Engine sits for about a weekend and have no oil pressure.
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A oil pump has very little draw until it gets oil in it to seal it up.. in your case you started with 2 lines and at least one line went high.. oil or any liquid will always take the path of least resistance.. keep a small trap point and dont make the pump work hard.. your pump may be screwed by now
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Re: Engine sits for about a weekend and have no oil pressure.
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A oil pump has very little draw until it gets oil in it to seal it up.. in your case you started with 2 lines and at least one line went high.. oil or any liquid will always take the path of least resistance.. keep a small trap point and dont make the pump work hard.. your pump may be screwed by now I'm thinking that the oil filter is draining out over the 3 days. A $40.00 check valve might be the answer. Going to leave the top line without a check valve. If this doesnt work, I ordered 2 -12an threaded caps and will try just 1 line to see if the problem goes away.
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Re: Engine sits for about a weekend and have no oil pressure.
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A oil pump has very little draw until it gets oil in it to seal it up.. in your case you started with 2 lines and at least one line went high.. oil or any liquid will always take the path of least resistance.. keep a small trap point and dont make the pump work hard.. your pump may be screwed by now I'm thinking that the oil filter is draining out over the 3 days. A $40.00 check valve might be the answer. Going to leave the top line without a check valve. If this doesnt work, I ordered 2 -12an threaded caps and will try just 1 line to see if the problem goes away. Most all oil filters have a anti drain back valve.. so does Wix
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Re: Engine sits for about a weekend and have no oil pressure.
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A oil pump has very little draw until it gets oil in it to seal it up.. in your case you started with 2 lines and at least one line went high.. oil or any liquid will always take the path of least resistance.. keep a small trap point and dont make the pump work hard.. your pump may be screwed by now I'm thinking that the oil filter is draining out over the 3 days. A $40.00 check valve might be the answer. Going to leave the top line without a check valve. If this doesnt work, I ordered 2 -12an threaded caps and will try just 1 line to see if the problem goes away. Most all oil filters have a anti drain back valve.. so does Wix so my question is, if theres oil in the filter, why wont it prime? I guess the oil out of the pump must be draining back over time.
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Re: Engine sits for about a weekend and have no oil pressure.
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If you have a trap in the line close to the pump and the pump is in decent shape it will prime.. have the oil line low enough that it has oil in it.... take a pic of the oil line and post it It's almost exactly like Prosports except my other line goes straight across to the front of the pump fitting. Not sure why it loses prime in 3 days but not 2 or overnight.
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