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Re: Galvanized Bodies #27558
05/03/07 12:00 PM
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Called up Rustoleum tech support and they recommended just that - the 8781 aluminum primer.

Off to the store (after work). I'll be prepping tonight and tomorrow and will hopefully have a coat of primer on before the end of the day!

WOO HOO!




Glad to be of assistance, make sure to get us all some pics as you progress.

Re: Paint job on a budget!? CONTINUED #27559
05/03/07 12:19 PM
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Hey, I have a quick question for the seasoned veteran rollers out there...

About how much thinned paint mixture are you guys using for each coat of paint? I'd like each coat to be somewhat uniform and I worried that if I mix by cosistency then I might run out mid-coat if I don't mix up enough.

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I said made by them, maybe not exactly like but should have the same results being the same type of paint.

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What brand of Swirl Mark Remover did you use & what type of bonnet did you use with each product?

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Also Rustoleum sells Semi-Gloss black spray cans, but I haven't seen Satin spray cans, so if you want to do some nook or cranny or something, you'll have to pick (probably go with the Flat).




id say that the semi gloss and satin are the same thing.. i sprayed my car with krylon rust tough semi-flat spray cans a year or 2 ago.. heres soem pics





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Hey, I have a quick question for the seasoned veteran rollers out there...

About how much thinned paint mixture are you guys using for each coat of paint? I'd like each coat to be somewhat uniform and I worried that if I mix by cosistency then I might run out mid-coat if I don't mix up enough.




I would get a good jar like a mason jar and mix it up in there.. that way you will not run out of mixed stuff. Just add a bit of the mineral spirits before painting to get the consistency right (in the jar) then pour it into the tray. I'd say 1/8th of a regular mason jar would be used each full coat, that's a very rough guess though..

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What brand of Swirl Mark Remover did you use & what type of bonnet did you use with each product?



i forgot the brand of swirl remover but its a yellow bottle and was like $3.. i used a microfiber bonnet for everything

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How does satin hold up to the elements? Does it end up looking bad after a couple months/years?
Do you maintain it the same as regular paint?

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Another dumb question - I searched and searched but couldn't find the answer. Can I use my orbital palm sander (like this: http://www.mytoolstore.com/dewalt/dew06-08.html) to do the scuffing before primer? After primer I won't as it is electric and that's not a good idea wet sanding.

First step complete... spent like $20 at the quarter wash knocking off the loose paint. First bath that truck has had in YEARS!

Thanks for all the help!

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I'm guessing it holds up about the same as the gloss, but only time will tell. I never let my car get wet, since i spent 2 years replacing all the rusted out metal, so I'll keep it in the garage when it gets wet out.

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How does satin hold up to the elements? Does it end up looking bad after a couple months/years?
Do you maintain it the same as regular paint?



it stood up fine for me, but i only had it for less than a year b4 i sold it

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05/03/07 08:35 PM
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Another dumb question - I searched and searched but couldn't find the answer. Can I use my orbital palm sander (like this: http://www.mytoolstore.com/dewalt/dew06-08.html) to do the scuffing before primer? After primer I won't as it is electric and that's not a good idea wet sanding.

First step complete... spent like $20 at the quarter wash knocking off the loose paint. First bath that truck has had in YEARS!

Thanks for all the help!



its fine to do the scuffing.. today i got tired of wetsanding and decided to use my electric sander.. worked out pretty good but u just gotta be very careful on the edges, i burned thru a few spots on the edges.. that can happen very easily by hand too tho

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I would get a good jar like a mason jar and mix it up in there.. that way you will not run out of mixed stuff. Just add a bit of the mineral spirits before painting to get the consistency right (in the jar) then pour it into the tray. I'd say 1/8th of a regular mason jar would be used each full coat, that's a very rough guess though..




Thanks Exit, I 'm thinking I will do about half a mason jars worth at the 2% milk consistency and go from there to the roller tray as needed then add mineral spirits at each coat to the jar if it appears to have thickened between coats.

On another note, has anyone considered using the Ace Rust Stop since our conversation yesterday? I was asked about painting my daughters car today and I might try that stuff on hers after I've done the Probe.

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I will give it (the Ace brand) a whirl, But I may not have time for the next couple of weeks.
So far I have played with a few different rustoleum colors, and the Van Sickle Tractor paint from Thiesens.

My test fender that has been outside the shop for about a year now (has a bit of rustoleum, and a bit of vansickle on it) is faring pretty well. Both area were color sanded, and were only a few coats, and I must say all of the guys at the shop are amazed.

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Oh and for colorsanding if you have experience, you can use a fine stroke D/A with the Norton Pads for color sanding. Makes quick work of it, but you need to be careful!

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Thanks again for the help... and another noob question. A friend has graciously offered up his garage (mine is too small) and I want to make sure I don't leave it a mess. How much paint comes off during wet sanding? Do I have to be careful of staining his driveway? Killing the grass? Anything else I should be aware of?

Thanks again. I'll be following the prep instructions for the peeling caravan by marq back on pg. 58, knocking off the paint in my driveway so I don't leave at least that mess at my friend's. Thanks Marq!

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05/04/07 08:48 AM
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Thanks again for the help... and another noob question. A friend has graciously offered up his garage (mine is too small) and I want to make sure I don't leave it a mess. How much paint comes off during wet sanding? Do I have to be careful of staining his driveway? Killing the grass? Anything else I should be aware of?





I don't think you have to worry about killing his grass unless you are going to be stomping around on it alot when it's soaked. As for staining his driveway, just dont let the dust from your wetsanding dry on the concrete. as long as you keep it wet you should be able to just rinse it away with a hose. If it does dry you can probably scrub it off with a good stiff bristled brush if needed. 69DartGT painted his truck in his driveway and if you look back at his pics his driveway is still clean.

2.3Turbo: If you do try out the Ace paint for sure let us know how it comes out. I'm very interested to see it since they appear to offer a large range of available colors. Thanx.

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05/04/07 09:57 AM
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for the rustolium clear it takes 3 weeks from time of order to get the clear. thats not good

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05/04/07 10:45 AM
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Yeah,

Thats what I found out too. I ordered some and it should be here in a week. Clear is not needed for the solid colors, but it has the advantage on solid colors of not making a huge colored mess when you wetsand/polish and buff or wax. Plus it's really easy to put on with a roller.

What source were you ordering from?

-Nathan.

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kelly supply. they dont stock the paint there, they send a purchase order to vernon hills, il. and then ship it back to kelly then to you.. that sucks...

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