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Re: Comp height on 68-70 383 pistons [Re: lewtot184] #2746729
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Well...... that’s true....... but I don’t think I’d be running .100 preload either.

Just use the Lunati micro-trol lifters that use the tru-arcs to retain the plunger and run them at zero preload.


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Re: Comp height on 68-70 383 pistons [Re: fast68plymouth] #2746788
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Originally Posted by fast68plymouth
Well...... that’s true....... but I don’t think I’d be running .100 preload either.

Just use the Lunati micro-trol lifters that use the tru-arcs to retain the plunger and run them at zero preload.

And only stock .450 ish Lift, but they do cut it real close to that piston, they pushed for notches awhile back, nhra said no, the 383 would dominate the classes if they let them because that’s the biggest downside of running a 383, drop the piston or smaller cam. We can run solids lifters now on the hyd cams so that helps. And the LD340 intake for my ride, About 50 pounds lighter.

Re: Comp height on 68-70 383 pistons [Re: cudaman1969] #2746801
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My old machinist had a SS/H or I 383 Dart running out of his shop. It had valve notches, but they looked like piston valve contact impressions, so he said. whistling

Re: Comp height on 68-70 383 pistons [Re: BSB67] #2746811
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Valve notches are legal in SS....... but they probably weren’t always.

In Stock, at one point it was pretty common to hammer some reliefs into stock pistons with some junk heads and valves.

Then, NHRA made a rule against it.
No valve contact witness marks allowed on the pistons.


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Re: Comp height on 68-70 383 pistons [Re: fast68plymouth] #2746820
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Yup, that's generally it.

This was in the early 1990s. I think at the time the class was dominated by small block Camaros. I think his belief was that the small AVS (verse Q-Jet) and carb to hood clearance was a hindrance for the 383.

Re: Comp height on 68-70 383 pistons [Re: cudaman1969] #2746896
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Originally Posted by cudaman1969
Originally Posted by fast68plymouth
Well...... that’s true....... but I don’t think I’d be running .100 preload either.

Just use the Lunati micro-trol lifters that use the tru-arcs to retain the plunger and run them at zero preload.

And only stock .450 ish Lift, but they do cut it real close to that piston, they pushed for notches awhile back, nhra said no, the 383 would dominate the classes if they let them because that’s the biggest downside of running a 383, drop the piston or smaller cam. We can run solids lifters now on the hyd cams so that helps. And the LD340 intake for my ride, About 50 pounds lighter.

The LD's not legal anymore.

Re: Comp height on 68-70 383 pistons [Re: Scully] #2747061
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Originally Posted by Scully
Originally Posted by cudaman1969
Originally Posted by fast68plymouth
Well...... that’s true....... but I don’t think I’d be running .100 preload either.

Just use the Lunati micro-trol lifters that use the tru-arcs to retain the plunger and run them at zero preload.

And only stock .450 ish Lift, but they do cut it real close to that piston, they pushed for notches awhile back, nhra said no, the 383 would dominate the classes if they let them because that’s the biggest downside of running a 383, drop the piston or smaller cam. We can run solids lifters now on the hyd cams so that helps. And the LD340 intake for my ride, About 50 pounds lighter.

The LD's not legal anymore.

Easy come easy go I guess, $300 in the trash. That Pontiac guy was screaming blood murder to the upper honchos over nothing.

Re: Comp height on 68-70 383 pistons [Re: cudaman1969] #2747073
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Originally Posted by cudaman1969
Originally Posted by Scully
Originally Posted by cudaman1969
Originally Posted by fast68plymouth
Well...... that’s true....... but I don’t think I’d be running .100 preload either.

Just use the Lunati micro-trol lifters that use the tru-arcs to retain the plunger and run them at zero preload.

And only stock .450 ish Lift, but they do cut it real close to that piston, they pushed for notches awhile back, nhra said no, the 383 would dominate the classes if they let them because that’s the biggest downside of running a 383, drop the piston or smaller cam. We can run solids lifters now on the hyd cams so that helps. And the LD340 intake for my ride, About 50 pounds lighter.

The LD's not legal anymore.

Easy come easy go I guess, $300 in the trash. That Pontiac guy was screaming blood murder to the upper honchos over nothing.

Yeah, that Pontiac guy is one of a kind, they took away the LD for the 273 too.

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Re: Comp height on 68-70 383 pistons [Re: Scully] #2747301
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I keep an eye out for the old TRW 2293's at swap meets or ebay and buy them up.

I think I have 3 or 4 sets - I could use .060 over set though for my next rebuild.

My engine builder calls them boat anchors but they work perfect.


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