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Re: Paint job on a budget!?
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04/20/07 12:15 AM
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those were the worst. i hated them more than runs. and those bubbles seem to be pretty huge. you should have taken a 2nd (clean) roller and rolled them to flatten out.
you'll have to sand them down flat before your next layer.
gl,
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Re: Paint job on a budget!?
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04/20/07 12:41 AM
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thats the 2nd coat
although the first coat did completely cover it.
i think its both too much paint and the mixture because even when i tried putting on tiny amounts i got lots of bubbles (smaller ones) so i kept going over it
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Pretty interesting...I would like to know more too.
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Those bubbles wouldn't bother me, just blow lightly over them and they should just pop. The paint should level out on it's own after that. You paint should be thinned enough it should almost run. When it's thinned this much it's very transparent but that the secret to this paint job. Every color requires a different percent of thinner to paint. I tried Red and it didn't need to be thinned as much as the Orange that I ended up using. If you start with a nice flat,clean, smooth surface. And apply thin coats the paint will have much less orange peel.
Another way to get the bubbles out is to lightly roll a dry roller over it a few times. The paint dries so slowly most roller marks will start to go away
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i would flatten them out before they dry. wetsanding my top layers always uncovered the bubbles (volcano looking things) underneath. it was a [Edited by Moparts - Keep it clean].
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Anyone know where I can get orange brightside in California? THANKS! 
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After experimenting with the roller method, I wasn't happy with the orange peel. So I decided to try the NEXT Cheapest solution, Spraying Rustoleum with my $50 HVLP gun, and little jinky compressor. It turned out AWESOME! This is one med coat, RustOleum thinned 4 to 1 with mineral spririts and sprayed with a 1.0 needle in my hvlp touch up gun. 
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question about spraying instead of rolling... would u have to still do many coats like u do with rolling? if u spray the rustoleum on thick wouldnt that lead to complete-drying issues?
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question about spraying instead of rolling... would u have to still do many coats like u do with rolling? if u spray the rustoleum on thick wouldnt that lead to complete-drying issues?
I have tried both ways of using this type of paint while painting my brother's Camaro. The front clip was sprayed while the main body of the car was rolled on. It only took two coats for the blue and white that I sprayed, as opposed to the 7 or 8 coats with a roller. The sprayed portion was completley hard in a day or two while the rolled on parts took about two months to reach full hardness. Of course , I will agree that application of the paint is easier with the roller but you can save a lot of sanding time by spraying.
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just need to find a quart of clear coat in the states
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Re: Paint job on a budget!?
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04/20/07 09:16 PM
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thats the 2nd coat
although the first coat did completely cover it.
i think its both too much paint and the mixture because even when i tried putting on tiny amounts i got lots of bubbles (smaller ones) so i kept going over it
My first thought about your bubble problem is that you 'might' not be using the right type of high density foam roller.
Tons of bubbles will happen if you use the less dense 4" roller. They are usually yellow foam. Because they are less dense and have more air space in them ( spongy ) they tend to transfer the air pockets of the roller over to the paint.
The high density foam rollers are usually white and the air pockets in the roller are like 1/10 the size of the air pockets in the cheaper rollers.
Dunno... but if the 4" rollers you are using can be easily pinched between your fingers... then they are probably the low density 'cheap' ones.
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i would flatten them out before they dry. wetsanding my top layers always uncovered the bubbles (volcano looking things) underneath. it was a [Edited by Moparts - Keep it clean].
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Being in California... I would tend to think you are swimming in Marine supply places all over that State... No ?
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I'll just have to wait and see how it turns out. I used a 1.0 nozzle, so the paint was very highly atomized, so it flashed pretty good as it went down.
Actually I left my 2 rolled layers, sanded out the peel, and then sprayed this thin to med thick layer. Might be a good overall approach, so that I get some color depth, and then get one final gloss coat with the gun.
I found it hard to get that "final" layer to get really smooth, the sprayed version was much smoother. I'll see how it looks tomorrow and maybe hit it with some 2000 grit.
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Re: Paint job on a budget!?
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04/20/07 10:36 PM
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My first thought about your bubble problem is that you 'might' not be using the right type of high density foam roller.
Tons of bubbles will happen if you use the less dense 4" roller. They are usually yellow foam. Because they are less dense and have more air space in them ( spongy ) they tend to transfer the air pockets of the roller over to the paint.
The high density foam rollers are usually white and the air pockets in the roller are like 1/10 the size of the air pockets in the cheaper rollers.
Dunno... but if the 4" rollers you are using can be easily pinched between your fingers... then they are probably the low density 'cheap' ones.
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humm its possible. the roller i used came form Canadian tire. I bought a pack that came with a tray, handle, and two rollers for $5. They are white foam with a yellow plastic core. There also rounded on both ends. The package did say High density though. I noticed when i was loading the roller up with paint in the tray that it was making tons of bubbles in the paint. Ill try get some different rollers. I know home depot has some quality ones.
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04/21/07 01:04 AM
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Anyone know where I can get orange brightside in California?
THANKS!
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Being in California... I would tend to think you are swimming in Marine supply places all over that State.. No ?
yes. sorry, i just got home from Newport Beach.
well, there was one place by Redondo Beach pier where i picked up my Sea Green. it was $45 USD. quite expensive compared to (cheapest place i found online) boatersland.com, where i picked up my black for $22.73 USD + $11.32 USD handling. i actually need to pick up another quart of each color and i'll be ordering it from BoatersLand again.
was orange a specific color you couldn't find at your local/nearest marine supply store?
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04/21/07 10:28 AM
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yes. sorry, i just got home from Newport Beach.
well, there was one place by Redondo Beach pier where i picked up my Sea Green. it was $45 USD. quite expensive compared to (cheapest place i found online) boatersland.com, where i picked up my black for $22.73 USD + $11.32 USD handling. i actually need to pick up another quart of each color and i'll be ordering it from BoatersLand again.
was orange a specific color you couldn't find at your local/nearest marine supply store?
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Nice find thanks!!! 30 bucks!!!
On ebay you can get them for 20$ but they only have 2 color choice 
I heard that the orange only is available in Canada
I can't make my mind up for the color.
What colors do you guys think look good on a VW bug?
thanks
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