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Re: morel lifters [Re: MoparJunkie] #2724500
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Originally Posted by HemiA12Bee
Dwayne, I will say Hughes tells me that's not an issue due to lifter only being there for a short time period..... I'm not buying that, what say you????


I have the same lifters .610 lift had one in #3 doing the same, swapped some lifters around & it was a LITTLE better but still blowing out oil. been running it this way about 4k street strip miles, I do have HV pump, stock rocker oiling AND pushrod oiling. still in the back of my mind I wish I would have had the block bushed, but so far no problem, really I wish I had just gone with a good aftermarket block.

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Re: morel lifters [Re: CSK] #2724503
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Originally Posted by csk
Originally Posted by HemiA12Bee
Dwayne, I will say Hughes tells me that's not an issue due to lifter only being there for a short time period..... I'm not buying that, what say you????


I have the same lifters .610 lift had one in #3 doing the same, swapped some lifters around & it was a LITTLE better but still blowing out oil. been running it this way about 4k street strip miles, I do have HV pump, stock rocker oiling AND pushrod oiling. still in the back of my mind I wish I would have had the block bushed, but so far no problem, really I wish I had just gone with a good aftermarket block.

I'm starting to agree with you!!!! mad


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Re: morel lifters [Re: fast68plymouth] #2724505
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Originally Posted by fast68plymouth
Originally Posted by HemiA12Bee
Dwayne, I will say Hughes tells me that's not an issue due to lifter only being there for a short time period..... I'm not buying that, what say you????


Only one way to know for sure.

Are these “real” hyd lifters, or limited travel lifters that are basically cushioned solids that are set off of the bottom of the plunger travel?

If they’re a “real” hyd lifter that have a pretty normal amount of plunger travel, and you’re going to run them with typical hyd lifter preload, then I probably wouldn’t run them like that, especially if that oil feed hole is extending above the lifter bore.

If they’re limited travel lifters that you’re going to set up at something like .010-.020 off the bottom, then I don’t think the leakage will matter at all....... other than whatever affect it has on the oil pressure.

The easy test to see if it’s the block or the lifter, just swap in a pair from a different cylinder.
The leak either follows the lifter, or stays with the bore.



They are real hydro, lifters, but I do run them .020 from the bottom

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Re: morel lifters [Re: CSK] #2724510
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As long as that’s an acceptable way to run those particular lifters....... I don’t see any big problems with that.

How’s the noise?


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I know a local roundy round engine builder that builds a lot of SCCA spec motors that require very specific cam grinds, compression ratio, heads, manifold and carbs and so on. He ended up using solid lifters on a hydraulic lifter camshaft with right at .0010 to .0030 clearances hot to help one of his customer when the west coast tile several years in a row work devil
My message in maybe using a solid roller lifter with a straight outer body on your build with .0010 to .0020 hot clearances may be a good solution for you also work shruggy
I may have a set of slightly used Crower Ultra lifters(straight sides) in stock also, let me know if your interested in them or not shruggy


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Re: morel lifters [Re: fast68plymouth] #2724514
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Originally Posted by fast68plymouth
As long as that’s an acceptable way to run those particular lifters....... I don’t see any big problems with that.

How’s the noise?


I had read that it was ok to run these .020 from the bottom, the valvetrain is a little noisy but not to bad, even though they say not to run oil heavier than 0w40, I have found down here I Southeast Tx heat, everything is better with 20/50


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Re: morel lifters [Re: CSK] #2725632
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Any updates?


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I have resolved the issue, but it took finding a lifter with a lower oil band on the body of the lifter.... I went with the Howards max effort roller lifter thanks Dwayne for your help and recommendation! I will add he's one of the best assets to this community, add over the years Dwayne Porter has always helped me when I call with some issue.... up I assembled the engine and confirmed by priming and rolling the engine around to be sure there were no geysers... LOL

Also..... If someone needs these Morels they are for sale. PM me

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