7 sec car Radiator
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i would know which radiator is correct for a 7 second car ... my engine is 572 nitrous .. if start the pass at 140 degree al is ok finish line at 210 ... if start at 170 ... finish line at 230 .. need new aluminium bigger radiator ? no air from the grille ....
1970 Cuda 496 street driven 9.22@150 1971 Demon 572 7.82@176 1957 Desoto Adventurer Convertible 345 Hemi 1958 Plymouth Fury Christine 2008 Dodge Ram 1500 Hemi 1970 Dodge ChallengerRT 6pack 4 speed 1 of 135 1968 Dodge Charger RT 4 speed
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Re: 7 sec car Radiator
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That much temp gain in that short time says your radiator is WAY TOO SMALL and your water pump doesn't flow enough. You have enough airflow moving down the track that the fan isn't a factor.
Just because you think it won't make it true. Horsepower is KING. To dispute this is stupid. C. Alston
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Re: 7 sec car Radiator
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By the time it gets hot your going to shut it off 😛
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Re: 7 sec car Radiator
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That much gain that quick is not the radiators fault. Are you running the thing lean? Timing slow? You can usually see the difference in the temperature gauge by moving the jetting a few numbers one way or the other.
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Re: 7 sec car Radiator
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why are you starting so high ? my car I try to roll through the water at 90-100 stage at 110-120 return road usually 145
If you look at a lot of heads up racers, they have small rads to save weight. If using a small rad and it doesn't have the capacity, just start lower. As long as it comes up on the trans brake, your good
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Re: 7 sec car Radiator
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why are you starting so high ? This would be my first question....My car goes in as cold as possible, they make more power this way too(cold water, warm oil). You could use a shroud as that will make sure you have airflow across the entire radiator. I use a small sirocco style radiator with a shroud and my car only sees over 140 when my opponent takes forever to stage ie turbo guy. My car runs low 7's N/A
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Re: 7 sec car Radiator
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I'd try a bigger fan first since the front is closed off. yep ..this was my idea... two fans ..but im undecided if try also bigger radiator
1970 Cuda 496 street driven 9.22@150 1971 Demon 572 7.82@176 1957 Desoto Adventurer Convertible 345 Hemi 1958 Plymouth Fury Christine 2008 Dodge Ram 1500 Hemi 1970 Dodge ChallengerRT 6pack 4 speed 1 of 135 1968 Dodge Charger RT 4 speed
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Re: 7 sec car Radiator
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By the time it gets hot your going to shut it off 😛
yep ! but the problem is when pass is close ! no time for make cold !
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Re: 7 sec car Radiator
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That much gain that quick is not the radiators fault. Are you running the thing lean? Timing slow? You can usually see the difference in the temperature gauge by moving the jetting a few numbers one way or the other. no Lean... and very Fast ... a little bit rich ... best ET is 7.82@175
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Re: 7 sec car Radiator
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why are you starting so high ? my car I try to roll through the water at 90-100 stage at 110-120 return road usually 145
If you look at a lot of heads up racers, they have small rads to save weight. If using a small rad and it doesn't have the capacity, just start lower. As long as it comes up on the trans brake, your good
you right ... but is from a pass and another pass is 15 minute .. no time for make cold ... i started minimum at 120 .. i can start at 90 ? but some time for wait before burnout go fast from 100 to 140 ...
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Re: 7 sec car Radiator
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https://youtu.be/WWxrBGgS1kIyou can see the water gauge on lower .. the second from right side
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Re: 7 sec car Radiator
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why are you starting so high ? my car I try to roll through the water at 90-100 stage at 110-120 return road usually 145
If you look at a lot of heads up racers, they have small rads to save weight. If using a small rad and it doesn't have the capacity, just start lower. As long as it comes up on the trans brake, your good
you right ... but is from a pass and another pass is 15 minute .. no time for make cold ... i started minimum at 120 .. i can start at 90 ? but some time for wait before burnout go fast from 100 to 140 ... Take a note from Stock/Super stock guys. Take you upper hose off rad, dump 5 gals in there and let it come out the top of the rad. If you want rig up a hose that you can slip on the rad, and let the water flow into a bucket. OR get real creative and use two buckets with a pump, fill one 5 gal and use a pump to pump it through the engine and into another empty 5 gal bucket. Cheap mans chiller You can get a cheap digital gauge from Jegs or Summit that goes down real low. Mine was 50* this past weekend. Now you can make sure you are 90* in the lanes. Don't know if you are, but towing up helps a lot. YOu have paired exh on your engine, that's a hot spot you don't need for nitrous use, run it cool even if just for that reason
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Re: 7 sec car Radiator
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Mine is completely closed off as well with no issues. My Cuda was closed up as well with a tow row sirocco radiator an even hot lapping it NEVER saw 190. Fwiw my Cuda went 7.94 171 NA at 29752
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Re: 7 sec car Radiator
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1 question comes to mind..... Do you have or are you using a flow restrictor in the thermostat housing? Also, Double check and make sure you have good flow and the Pump is flow well. I think I would also check the inlet and outlet flow of the radiator. Some of these radiators are really slow flowing from very small tubes. Keep chipping at it Raffa.... Looking good
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Re: 7 sec car Radiator
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1 question comes to mind..... Do you have or are you using a flow restrictor in the thermostat housing? Also, Double check and make sure you have good flow and the Pump is flow well. I think I would also check the inlet and outlet flow of the radiator. Some of these radiators are really slow flowing from very small tubes. Keep chipping at it Raffa.... Looking good Hola Hog ! i don't have any restrictor in the pump !
1970 Cuda 496 street driven 9.22@150 1971 Demon 572 7.82@176 1957 Desoto Adventurer Convertible 345 Hemi 1958 Plymouth Fury Christine 2008 Dodge Ram 1500 Hemi 1970 Dodge ChallengerRT 6pack 4 speed 1 of 135 1968 Dodge Charger RT 4 speed
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