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Valve cover recommendations #2699206
09/20/19 11:07 AM
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Hello all..

I'm looking for a recommendation for a B1-O sheet metal valve cover... I'm not a fan of the cast B1 valve covers and currently am using the Williams Bros sheet metal... However the flange is so wide, I can not install using studs... Seems the T-D 1.7 rockers will hit the flange... So I am currently using wing nuts to hold the valve cover on..

Does anyone have any recommendations for another manufacturer that would accept studs?

Thanks in advance

Re: Valve cover recommendations [Re: Jeepmon] #2699209
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Take a look at the 440source ones. I happen to have a set and Tom Hemphill told me they work great


1970 Duster
Edelbrock headed 408
6.143@110.85 mph
9.73@135.05 mph shifting at 6700 RPM
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27

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Re: Valve cover recommendations [Re: pittsburghracer] #2699211
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Found a picture but on this site it will probably be sideways

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1970 Duster
Edelbrock headed 408
6.143@110.85 mph
9.73@135.05 mph shifting at 6700 RPM
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27

Livin and lovin life one day at a time




Re: Valve cover recommendations [Re: Jeepmon] #2699232
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I've bought and used several different brands of polish aluminum sheet metal valve covers, one set needed trimming of the flange on the inside ends in the corners to get them to slide on and off with short mounting studs with a set of Harland Sharp 1.6 ratio single shaft rocker kit shruggy scope


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Re: Valve cover recommendations [Re: Cab_Burge] #2699487
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I would check with Doug Lee:

http://propan.net/
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Address: 9201 S. 650 Rd., Miami, Oklahoma 74354
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Email: dlee@propan.net

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Re: Valve cover recommendations [Re: pittsburghracer] #2699551
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Originally Posted by pittsburghracer
Take a look at the 440source ones. I happen to have a set and Tom Hemphill told me they work great


Those look almost like the Williams Bros I have now... Any chance we can get a pic of the inside and flanges?

Re: Valve cover recommendations [Re: Cab_Burge] #2699553
09/21/19 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Cab_Burge
I've bought and used several different brands of polish aluminum sheet metal valve covers, one set needed trimming of the flange on the inside ends in the corners to get them to slide on and off with short mounting studs with a set of Harland Sharp 1.6 ratio single shaft rocker kit shruggy scope


Yeah Cab... thats the problems I have... we've trimmed so much of the inside flange, it makes sealing the gasket difficult... plus, the B1 uses the 1.7 rockers...

I guess if I cant find anything decent, I will go back to the cast B1 covers

Re: Valve cover recommendations [Re: 340Cuda] #2699554
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Originally Posted by 340Cuda
I would check with Doug Lee:

http://propan.net/
Doug Lee Engineuity
Address: 9201 S. 650 Rd., Miami, Oklahoma 74354
Phone: 918-542-4686
Email: dlee@propan.net

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/DougLeeEngineuity


Thank you... I will make a call to them next week

Re: Valve cover recommendations [Re: Jeepmon] #2699672
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I ended up having to find a set of the early original B1 valve covers to make the B1 V.C. gaskets work shruggy


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Re: Valve cover recommendations [Re: Cab_Burge] #2699864
09/22/19 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Cab_Burge
I ended up having to find a set of the early original B1 valve covers to make the B1 V.C. gaskets work shruggy


Thats another issue... without a front mount distributor, its difficult to fit the passenger side valve cover

Re: Valve cover recommendations [Re: Jeepmon] #2699873
09/22/19 01:12 PM
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I also hate the B1 cast covers.

I am pretty sure that I will be able to make my M/T cast aluminum covers work with my new B1 MC heads, but won't know for sure for a few more months. Its been a lot of work to make them fit.


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Re: Valve cover recommendations [Re: markz528] #2699875
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But if you want a sheetmetal set that fits, supposedly these are the way to go for B1 MC (and standard B1) heads but not cheap at $600.

http://www.billetfab.com/


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Re: Valve cover recommendations [Re: markz528] #2699959
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Originally Posted by markz528
But if you want a sheetmetal set that fits, supposedly these are the way to go for B1 MC (and standard B1) heads but not cheap at $600.

http://www.billetfab.com/


I like them... Thanks

Re: Valve cover recommendations [Re: Jeepmon] #2700233
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Sorry it took so long but here are some pictures of the 440source valve covers

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1970 Duster
Edelbrock headed 408
6.143@110.85 mph
9.73@135.05 mph shifting at 6700 RPM
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27

Livin and lovin life one day at a time




Re: Valve cover recommendations [Re: pittsburghracer] #2700309
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I have used a few dif. sets of jeff Johnson covers, all with good results, as you know I am currently running a set of billet covers with a one piece o ring to seal instead of a gasket,if you go with the jeff Johnson covers, he may be able to install them in your covers, I know there is one of our mopar brothers in Australia I think who is/was making billet covers for B1 heads,that would be the route I would go if you can find him....

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Re: Valve cover recommendations [Re: boatracer572] #2700311
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Don, LA360...…. is the guy who I was talking about who has billet B1 covers

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Pittsburgracer's pictures of the 440source valve covers seem to show that there is a lot of room, internally, to accomodate a variety of rocker arm/valve train arrangements, and cost effective as well. Cover sidewalls seem to be set at the outer portion of the gasket rail, freeing up a lot of room for rockers. They appear to be just what I'm looking for. Thanks for posting the pics. Bill

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Originally Posted by lancer493
Pittsburgracer's pictures of the 440source valve covers seem to show that there is a lot of room, internally, to accomodate a variety of rocker arm/valve train arrangements, and cost effective as well. Cover sidewalls seem to be set at the outer portion of the gasket rail, freeing up a lot of room for rockers. They appear to be just what I'm looking for. Thanks for posting the pics. Bill



I have the 440 source sheetmetal ones in the pics. They are great. Fit over T and D rockers, and they don't leak. As expected slight grinding in the distributor area but that's it.


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Originally Posted by lancer493
Pittsburgracer's pictures of the 440source valve covers seem to show that there is a lot of room, internally, to accomodate a variety of rocker arm/valve train arrangements, and cost effective as well. Cover sidewalls seem to be set at the outer portion of the gasket rail, freeing up a lot of room for rockers. They appear to be just what I'm looking for. Thanks for posting the pics. Bill



Glad I could help. When I dropped my 572 in my Duster I had to use the valve covers that came with the B1 heads because of master cylinder clearance. I now have everything to move the master cylinder over and will do so after race season is over.


1970 Duster
Edelbrock headed 408
6.143@110.85 mph
9.73@135.05 mph shifting at 6700 RPM
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27

Livin and lovin life one day at a time




Re: Valve cover recommendations [Re: pittsburghracer] #2700443
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Originally Posted by pittsburghracer
Found a picture but on this site it will probably be sideways


wow. what headers are those?


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