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well I guess you could spray Rustoleum at $25 a gallon.
Just wonder how long it takes to dry all the way thru since there is no hardener added.
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What does everyone do to paint the door handles? I'm thinking about just removing them to paint them, then reassembling afterwords.
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What does everyone do to paint the door handles? I'm thinking about just removing them to paint them, then reassembling afterwords.
If you picked a color that comes in spray bombs I would use that. Same with the door jambs.
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you can rent every piece of the equipment to paint with or buy a gun(99.00 eastwood) and rent a compressor.you could buy the whole rig paint yours then charge to paint your buddys to recoupe some money
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no room, paint it outside, drys fast
enamal or lacquers are under 100.00 , paint whole car with 1/2 gallon or less
the race car paint was as good or better than my twin turbo stealth. hope the photo comes out good
how much does that add up to?
tha motivation of a paint job that's only $50 (with room for mistakes) is quite convincing, and tastes good to ppl of all budgets.
my uncle who used to be a paint & body repair man (retired), still gets his discount at this one paint store here. even with that discount, they still wanted well over $100 (was told price went up) just for a quart of Sherwin Williams paint. just for that, i haven't gotten to tha point where i even want to make an effort to paint my car anymore. that was a couple years ago.
after coming across this $50 paint job discussion, i've been well-motivated to "get 'er done!" i'm now just waiting for after valentines day to go by.
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So what about under the hood? My Galaxie was originally painted the body color under the hood. I could keep it the body color again but will rustoleum hold up the heat under the hood? Should I just go with the heat resistant black spray paint?
What's every one else done?
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If you picked a color that comes in spray bombs I would use that. Same with the door jambs.
I was thinking that, but I'm using the bright side paint. I'd hate for the spray bomb to stick out like a sore thumb
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So, after testing a spray can on the door jams I realize it's going to go better if I use a smaller roller and foam brushes. The reason is of course because of the over spray and wide pattern of the spray can nozzle.
Then I got to thinking about graffiti artists. They all use special tips on the spay cans. They can get a variety of patterns and spray just like you would with ajusting the nozzle on an hvlp gun.
I'm going to a graffiti web site and order a few of these (pretty cheap, in keeping with the $50 paint job theme) and see if I can't get less over spray and better direction on these hard to roll areas like jams and trunk drip channels.
It may be spring til I know, so if anyone else has done this or does it, let us know.
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I used Brightside Fire Red and found Rustoleum Saftey Red is pretty much of a exact match.
Crusader did the same thing with his jeep and had the same exact match.
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I used Brightside Fire Red and found Rustoleum Saftey Red is pretty much of a exact match.
Crusader did the same thing with his jeep and had the same exact match.
Yep Crusader is where the tip came from. 
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69DartGT ... Have you polished your truck yet? Let us know how it goes.
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69DartGT ... Have you polished your truck yet? Let us know how it goes.
About half way there I bought the who;e set of Poor Boys swirl removers and wax I'm up to SR 2 all over and have finished some area's completely.
I think it will get better as I polish on it but I'm very happy right now, I did not wet sand nor do I intend to.
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I'm going to a graffiti web site and order a few of these (pretty cheap, in keeping with the $50 paint job theme) and see if I can't get less over spray and better direction on these hard to roll areas like jams and trunk drip channels.
Dude, that's a RAD idea!! That's totally what this paint thread is about.. ingenuity and thinking outside of the box.. unless of course you have a 67-76 dart.. then you're driving the box 
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About to start painting my land rover, although Ive read all the posts there are a few things I cant remember.
How much brightside should I buy?
It does need primer right, is it better to buy a brightside primer or shall I use an auto primer?
What does brightside need to be thinned with?
What spec of electric polisher do I need?
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About to start painting my land rover, although Ive read all the posts there are a few things I cant remember.
How much brightside should I buy?
It does need primer right, is it better to buy a brightside primer or shall I use an auto primer?
What does brightside need to be thinned with?
What spec of electric polisher do I need?
Please don't take this the wrong way but a boat that is 6.1 m long, 1.5 m wide and 1 m high should require 2.6 litres of paint for 2 coats. So land rover should need a max of 2 litres for 2 coats, and probably less than that in reality.
The International Boat Painting and Product guide also recommends the PREKOTE primer before using Brightside. Personally though I have found that well sanded factory paint also works well under Brightside.
According to the paint tin, Enamel Thinners #1 should be used (if needed) at temps typically below 18 C and Brushing Thinners #6 at higher temps. But since the paint contains Mineral Spirits/Turpentine and White Spirits at 300g/litre, you could also use the Mineral Spirit/turpentine as a thinner which is what I used.
There are two main types of electric auto polishers available. The first is a Rotary polisher and the specs for a decent rotary are something like 600 rpm to 3000 rpm and around 1200 watts. The second type of polisher (although it is usually sold as a sander) is a Random Orbital polisher. A good RO should have specs similar to the following, 3000 opm to 7000 opm and around 750 watts.
But the important thing about a polisher isn't the polisher so much as the type/grade of polishing pad that is used. For instance a Rotary Polisher with a lambswool polishing pad at full speed will attack your paint about as fast as sandpaper (especially in inexperienced hands). But the same polisher at say 2000 rpm with a light cutting pad or even a polishing pad will flatten the paint out really nicely. Basically a Random Orbital polisher is a much safer (but slower) option than a Rotary polisher.
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Would brightside also work well as a chassis and underbody paint? The car has aluminium body panels will that be a problem with brightside? Im having trouble finding a 750w polisher all I can find are the crappy ones that are 100w or so and then the ones that look like angle grinders that are 1300w. 1300 w  crappy 100w 
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Hi guys , great reading here. I have read thru both segments and had a couple questions. Are there any updates on the Bluewater paint? I saw one awile back on a Porsche? and it didn't work so well. Any more results or pics, I like the color selection better with the Bluewater over the Brightside. I'm considering spraying with a hvlp, but how much of a compressor does it take for a gun rated for 9-15 cfm? I think my compressor is 6 Ga volume and can go up to 110 psi. I also saw this electric pump/hvlp assembly from HP and wondering how well it would work? I don't remember this being brought up before? Thanks, chieftain. http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=91772
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Would brightside also work well as a chassis and underbody paint?
I don't think that Brightside would be the best candidate for a chassis and underbody paint...
This would be especially true if we were talking about an 'everyday driver'. First off... it would be a pain to roll on and get 100% coverage of all the nooks and crannys. A spray would be much better for doing the underside of the car.
And as well, I can imagine road chips cutting into the paint, allowing moisture to reach the undercarriage metal, blistering the paint with rust from underneath.. and ultimately patched of paint being separated from their adhesion to the undercarriage.
A paint like Tremclad or Rustoleum - when applied in its original format - not thinned - would probably do a better long term job at adhering and withstanding any incursions in the paint by road chips etc. It may lose its initial shine over time... but the anti-rust and adhesion qualities would hang tuff to protect the undercarriage metal.
IF... you were preparing a 'trailer queen' that would not expose the undercarriage to a daily bombardment of road chipping rocks and crud - then I would say that Brightside would be able to do the job and give you an amazingly shiny under-carriagge...
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The car has aluminium body panels will that be a problem with brightside?
There should be no problems... as long as the aluminum is prepped to allow good adhesion by the Brightside. Now whether this means acid etching or a fine sanding of the aluminum surface is something you may have to test out for yourself to find which one is better and easier to achieve..
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