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Re: Intake air temps [Re: Clanton] #2679765
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I have tested in the street with & without filters and saw no change in the AFRs. From what I have experienced,the performance starts to fall off at 159* and by 170* I hit the wall. I would think which ever way I go to lower the IAT that I could well without losing a few tenthes to ambient temps. Watergrains is a whole other subject!
I will NOT go to the top of high gear in the street,top of 2nd must be over 100 MPH eek

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Re: Intake air temps [Re: hemi-itis] #2679789
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Re: Intake air temps [Re: hemi-itis] #2679791
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What would be peculiar to your combo where more boost than say, 6-8lbs or so, doesn’t show up as more power...... compared to other builds, also running non-intercooled roots blowers carbureted on gas, where they still show improvements with higher boost levels than you’re running?

In the pic above........ how is the drive shaft rpm higher than the engine rpm?


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Re: Intake air temps [Re: hemi-itis] #2679805
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Cooling the IAT is hard with the blower having so much mass and heat soaking even more so on the street.Look into the NOS nylon lines and run to each intake runner from the side of the manifold if you can.[just an idea]


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Re: Intake air temps [Re: Clanton] #2679892
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The BDS manifold is too low,putting it through the blower should help keep it cooler as well.

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Re: Intake air temps [Re: hemi-itis] #2679993
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I used a Snow kit with 1250 ml/min for a short time but have no results to post only an opinion and the fact that I went to an a/w intercooler and got good results.


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Re: Intake air temps [Re: hemi-itis] #2679998
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I have been where you are with this matter 20 yrs ago


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Re: Intake air temps [Re: Clanton] #2680200
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Mike,were able to see intake air temps on a gauge or data logger?


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Re: Intake air temps [Re: hemi-itis] #2680217
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I got very little info with an ARC dual probe 1 EGT 1 IAT.I got a small drop with w/m activated driving in the pits and I ran all water ,50/50 w/meth,all meth on several runs and quickly decided to get the air to water intercooler that took out 100 degrees no ice as used on the dyno with and without water.


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Re: Intake air temps [Re: hemi-itis] #2680355
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Al, is E85 not an option for you? I know availability is an issue in some areas, especially on the street as not many stations have it at the pump.
From what I've seen, I personally wouldn't attempt to run a big blower w/o either running E85 or straight alcohol.
Just seems like a fuel change would be easier...but if it isn't readily available, then I completely understand. That's why mine is still on gas. E85 was easy to get here for a lil while about 8 years ago or so, but not now.


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Re: Intake air temps [Re: an8sec70cuda] #2680668
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There are some stations that sell E,,, if I go to something 23/30 miles away availability becomes unknown. Them I would have carry 2 ,, 5 gallon jugs down
I prefer to stay on gasoline for all the street driving I do on pump premium and then add octane with a pulley change. I slowly went smaller on the top pulley and take baby steps so I don't hurt it,but I have found the IAT wall for my combo and now need some chemical intercooling and nitrous is the path of least resistance. whistling


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Re: Intake air temps [Re: hemi-itis] #2680678
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Are there any boost related forums you frequent?

Is the wall you’ve run into fairly common at that boost level with a roots style blower?

It just seems like that’s really not much boost at all.

One of my friends ran a 515bbc with an 8-71 and 2x4500 carbs in a 79 Malibu.
11-12 lbs boost, race gas.

10.5 tires, 3.73 gears, had to walk it out just a bit....... then push the gas to the floor......went 8.90’s at 155-156 on a good pass.
Still had the factory interior, power windows, and tilt wheel.


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Re: Intake air temps [Re: fast68plymouth] #2680703
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Originally Posted by fast68plymouth
Are there any boost related forums you frequent?

Is the wall you’ve run into fairly common at that boost level with a roots style blower?

It just seems like that’s really not much boost at all.

One of my friends ran a 515bbc with an 8-71 and 2x4500 carbs in a 79 Malibu.
11-12 lbs boost, race gas.

10.5 tires, 3.73 gears, had to walk it out just a bit....... then push the gas to the floor......went 8.90’s at 155-156 on a good pass.
Still had the factory interior, power windows, and tilt wheel.

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Dwane,I have asked about thus on several different forums without a solid reply.My results are from personal experience. They every combo is different and work I had to find the wall myself.The ambient temp and DA must have an effect as well.


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Some states can take your car if you run NOS and race on the street and get busted and a sticker must be posted on the car on case of fire.


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Re: Intake air temps [Re: Clanton] #2693463
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Have all the nitrous parts lined up for pickup next week. I've been told a 50 shot under each carb will lower the temp by 100 to 120*.That's WINTER air boogie
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Re: Intake air temps [Re: hemi-itis] #2693712
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Sounds like a Sneaky Pete kit[small bottle]I don't think you will reduce the boost but I would take 2 degrees out of timing.


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Re: Intake air temps [Re: Clanton] #2693928
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Looking forward to testing !! Making my own winter air will put a smile on my face.In another 1/2 a second or so I will be at my legal limit and have NO desire to go any faster. I'm just looking to hit my goal and still drive the streets on pump junk as I have for 45 years.

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