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Re: Electric power steering pump
[Re: crash520]
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06/21/19 07:47 PM
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Unfortunately motor assist is not an option for me, laws down here would make going down this path very difficult I'm curious how in depth any inspection is that the mod you are seeking that it would be noticeable enough to flag your car, or maybe just how lucky we are in the US. 
I'm with Helmuth Hübener, and no soup is being served today.
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Re: Electric power steering pump
[Re: BigBlockMopar]
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06/23/19 06:09 AM
06/23/19 06:09 AM
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I've once read about Toyota pumps that were suitable and simple enough to retrofit in an older car.
Based on that I bought one once, but ofcourse it turned out I needed one that was a few years newer, because those would have some variable pump control built in.
The older ones just work at one rpm and are always pumping and heating up the fluid.
I’d love to be able to control the pump a little, most pumps are controlled by the BCM. When not turning the wheel the pump motors idle down.
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Re: Electric power steering pump
[Re: crash520]
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06/23/19 02:28 PM
06/23/19 02:28 PM
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Your very lucky living in the US.
Our police carry decibel meters with them and on Friday and sat night cruises they will write you a ticket if the exhaust is ‘loud’, and they will write you up for an inspection. The inspection is where the trouble starts as such, because I would be altering the original steering from OEM that’s an issue, changing a pump doesn’t interfere with the mechanical connection of the steering, another little one they do is make you turn a tight circle, if your inside wheel scrubs indicating you could be using a spool in your diff, they will write you up as an unroadworthy vehicle. Yes your lucky in the US Organize with LIKE minded people and overthrow that stupid government.
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Re: Electric power steering pump
[Re: crash520]
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06/23/19 07:25 PM
06/23/19 07:25 PM
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Your very lucky living in the US.
Our police carry decibel meters with them and on Friday and sat night cruises they will write you a ticket if the exhaust is ‘loud’, and they will write you up for an inspection. The inspection is where the trouble starts as such, because I would be altering the original steering from OEM that’s an issue, changing a pump doesn’t interfere with the mechanical connection of the steering, another little one they do is make you turn a tight circle, if your inside wheel scrubs indicating you could be using a spool in your diff, they will write you up as an unroadworthy vehicle. Yes your lucky in the US Thanks for sharing. FWIW its worth, I spent some time In Australia in the early 80's and its a great country, and great people, really enjoyed it. Of all my travels, it was the only country I would live in other then the US, but not sure they would have me, 
I'm with Helmuth Hübener, and no soup is being served today.
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Re: Electric power steering pump
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06/24/19 01:18 AM
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crash have you got a pump , bloke in Brisbane was selling TS Astra pumps fairly cheap. Is this some Australian slang?
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Re: Electric power steering pump
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06/24/19 03:49 AM
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Re: Electric power steering pump
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06/24/19 01:21 PM
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crash have you got a pump , bloke in Brisbane was selling TS Astra pumps fairly cheap. Is this some Australian slang? crash is the poster with an issue. he is being asked if he has a pump. if not, there is a guy in Brisbane that is selling pumps off TS Astras (a car model form the Holden line) .
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Re: Electric power steering pump
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06/24/19 03:06 PM
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crash have you got a pump , bloke in Brisbane was selling TS Astra pumps fairly cheap. Dodgy, yes I saw his adds, according to a PS guy on the Northside the Astra TRW pumps can’t be pressure controlled, so he says, they run around 1400 psi and I’d like it around 800-900 psi, he has a pump kit out of a European car (mini, bmw) that can be, but I’m thinking it’s a sales pitch and I don’t know that much about ps pumps. The Astra pumps are cheap, his conversion pump is $1400😳 and that a little more than I would be prepared to pay
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Re: Electric power steering pump
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06/25/19 01:04 AM
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The way i understand it the astra pump will increase pressure as the demand increases and is built into the pump, there are a couple of ways to wire them up as to the pump starting up, i have two pumps here ear marked for my ute and factory power steering box. Im just going to run them as is and hope the box will handle it, first pump i picked up for $60 so you can find them cheap. Also apparently they can draw a bit of power so a good alternator will be needed.
My son also has a ktm 520 exc, fast bike for a 17yo that weighs about 80kg.
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Re: Electric power steering pump
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06/25/19 07:42 PM
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crash have you got a pump , bloke in Brisbane was selling TS Astra pumps fairly cheap. Is this some Australian slang? crash is the poster with an issue. he is being asked if he has a pump. if not, there is a guy in Brisbane that is selling pumps off TS Astras (a car model form the Holden line) . Thanks. I am aware of what a Bloke is but.... The lack of a capital letter at the beginning of the sentence, then the lack of a question mark after "have you got a pump" had me thinking that this was some Australian expression like "Shrimp on the barbie" or "Carby" for carburetor. Carry on.
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Re: Electric power steering pump
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06/25/19 09:27 PM
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The way i understand it the astra pump will increase pressure as the demand increases and is built into the pump, there are a couple of ways to wire them up as to the pump starting up, i have two pumps here ear marked for my ute and factory power steering box. Im just going to run them as is and hope the box will handle it, first pump i picked up for $60 so you can find them cheap. Also apparently they can draw a bit of power so a good alternator will be needed.
My son also has a ktm 520 exc, fast bike for a 17yo that weighs about 80kg. The ASTRA BCM controls the pump speed via rpm/car speed, and other inputs for sure, I’m wondering if on one of the two control wires a variable resistor somehow couldn’t be put in line to control the pump speed and pressure ???? I would like to have the pump pressure at around 800psi, the Astra pump runs around 1400psi, Mopar pumps are supposed to be 900-1300 psi roughly I’m told, there is also a ps bypass valve which may work, I might need to grab a cheap pump and experiment a little
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