Re: VALVE SPRING COIL BIND QUESTION
[Re: BradH]
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06/11/19 01:58 PM
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451RB, SR heads, steel valves, HS 1.5 rockers(measured closer to 1.55), Isky 9375/85 springs @ 250 closed, Comp RT .435 lobe, 302/272/193, 3/8” x.080” pushrods......... peak power at 7200, no indication of issues thru 7500.
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Re: VALVE SPRING COIL BIND QUESTION
[Re: moparmacka]
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06/11/19 05:11 PM
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If you wanted to do a test to see if it were more of “float” type of situation, or a spring “surge” situation, you could set up the current springs so they were pretty close to coil bind......... like .020-ish. This changes to point of resonance, so if it’s a surge condition, it should make a noticeable difference.
I don’t think it would be enough of a pressure difference to add more than a couple hundred rpm to the usable range if the issue is really a spring load issue.
Of course....... the issue could be a little of both....... spring load, and surge.
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Re: VALVE SPRING COIL BIND QUESTION
[Re: fast68plymouth]
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06/13/19 05:01 PM
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Apparently this was intentional as I was using a 0.815 roller wheel and this was done to compensate for that?? The short answer is....... the bigger wheel adds some duration if the profile was designed around a smaller wheel. The lobe design for a 1.050bc is probably done with a SBC in mind........ .750” wheel. Using an .815 wheel on a .750 designed lobe generally adds 1-2deg@.050. So I theory, those 264/268 lobes, if designed for a .750 wheel, would measure closer to 266/270 when checked using an .815 wheel.
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Re: VALVE SPRING COIL BIND QUESTION
[Re: moparmacka]
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06/14/19 05:00 PM
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It’s odd that if the two lobes are from the same lobe family, that the longer duration exhaust lobe(@.020 and .050) would have 5* less duration @.200 than the intake.
Or....... it’s a typo on their part(intake is 178/ex is 183)which would make more sense.
Either way, the .200 numbers aren’t anything unusual for that .050 number.
The Comp .420 lobe with 266@.050 is also 183@.200.
Looking through the Crane lobes..... since you’re having an upper rpm issue..... I’d get this:
LH2 series lobes: R268/432 intake lobe(298/268/181, .432 lift) R272/440 exhaust lobe(302/272/186, .440 lift)
Then test it before changing anything else in the valvetrain.
68 Satellite, 383 with stock 906’s, 3550lbs, 11.18@123 Dealer for Comp Cams/Indy Heads
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