'63 ply. runs, dies, runs..then it gets weird
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Thought the pick up was bad ..I put a new pick up in and took the car out, drove fine.. for about 40 minutes and quit which was what it was doing and why I changed the pick up.. Started right back up and drove a couple miles home. .. changed the ignition model with new 4 pin I had, > won't start ..put in original 4 pinmodule ..it starts.. thought the new module I had was bad as it has laid in my garage for years, so I go this morning and buy a new module.. no start. put old one in, it starts... .again ..went and got # 3 as everyone felt there pretty much junk these days put it in >> no start..... WHY will it run with the faulty one and not the new ones ....ANY suggestion .. been over the wiring and grounds they check out. new ballast resistor, coil, bulkhead connection is clean and solid. After I change any thing I put in the old one to make sure it still starts and it does. THANKS
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Re: '63 ply. runs, dies, runs..then it gets weird
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05/21/19 04:03 PM
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let it idle & bump/jostle all the ECU/pickup wires & see if you can get it to die. & next time it wont start, pull the yellow wire off of the starter relay to disable the starter & have a helper hold the key to crank & you with your meter see what ain't being fed then have him release the key & pull a batt cable & with your meter on ohms check the pickup for continuity at the ECU. The fact that changing out the ECU makes it OK tells me the prob might be in that connector but I ain't 100% sure.
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Re: '63 ply. runs, dies, runs..then it gets weird
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05/21/19 04:26 PM
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I agree the coil should not be upside down. Ditto get an electronic voltage regulator. Are you running a sngle field or dual field alternator?? for giggles swap out the ballast resistor.
it is something simple and you just don't see it...yet
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Re: '63 ply. runs, dies, runs..then it gets weird
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the start/no start, changes with the ECU changeout & that is pointing me to the ECU connector/harness.
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Re: '63 ply. runs, dies, runs..then it gets weird
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More worrisome that the mounting of the coil. What brand of coil is that? Swap that out. These newer “trick” coils bring many driveability problems but they don’t quit they just cause trouble so you think it’s something else.
Do you have an aftermarket tach? Disconnect it from the negative side of the coil and see how it runs.
What are the 3 wires going to the left side coil terminal? Disconnect all the gadgets and see how the engine runs.
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Re: '63 ply. runs, dies, runs..then it gets weird
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at this point I might disconnect ALL the related wiring & power everything (ECU/coil/pickup/ballast) with jumpers & see if it straightens out. Then replace (1) wire/remove its jumper, one at a time till it shows itself.
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Re: '63 ply. runs, dies, runs..then it gets weird
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got it . I put the original pick up in and it's running That was way to easy!
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Re: '63 ply. runs, dies, runs..then it gets weird
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05/21/19 10:38 PM
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got it . I put the original pick up in and it's running That was way to easy! 3 days and countless swearing, put it on take it off, test light this, test light that, multimeter check again and again, drop screws under car, swear, parts store four times, two extra modules, an extra pick up, new coil on, new coil off, AND I don't have an answer ..........it was a snap. .......... thanks guys
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Re: '63 ply. runs, dies, runs..then it gets weird
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05/21/19 11:20 PM
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Murphys law. You'll be alright (for awhile) & I do feel your pain (been there).
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