|
Re: Letting the big car go and 1320........
[Re: Keith Richards]
#2655879
05/16/19 12:00 AM
05/16/19 12:00 AM
|
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 20,164
PA.
pittsburghracer
"Little"John
|
"Little"John
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 20,164
PA.
|
My Son just came home and told me a Friend of ours had his Hellcat Jeep at Keystones test n tune tonight. My son drove it last year and it ran 11.90’s. Well he sent it out for some mods and it ran 10.90’s tonight spinning.
1970 Duster
Edelbrock headed 408
5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27
Livin and lovin life one day at a time
|
|
|
Re: Letting the big car go and 1320........
[Re: Uncle Barry]
#2655960
05/16/19 10:14 AM
05/16/19 10:14 AM
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 8,021
Tulsa OK
Bad340fish
master
|
master
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 8,021
Tulsa OK
|
I love my Barracuda, its street and strip and runs 10.50s and can be driven anywhere for the most part. But I would love a 1320, unfortunately I can't balance both the hot rod and a 1320 payment.
68 Barracuda Formula S 340
|
|
|
Re: Letting the big car go and 1320........
[Re: Bad340fish]
#2655988
05/16/19 12:13 PM
05/16/19 12:13 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 10,021
MN
JERICOGTX
I Live Here
|
I Live Here
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 10,021
MN
|
I have a lot of respect for the new stuff. Can't deny they handle well, stop well, and are way faster stock then Muscle cars ever were stock, but I just can't get into them, nor would I have a passion for it.
Last edited by JERICOGTX; 05/16/19 12:13 PM.
69 GTX
68 Road Runner
|
|
|
Re: Letting the big car go and 1320........
[Re: Bad340fish]
#2655990
05/16/19 12:15 PM
05/16/19 12:15 PM
|
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 1,550
Michigan
Kiddart
pro stock
|
pro stock
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 1,550
Michigan
|
I think about it every day. the dealer close to me has two. I am getting my dart back together so I can sell to get one of them. its just the next logical step as I get older. I have had my dart a very long time, but its time.
Thank you
Kiddart
|
|
|
Re: Letting the big car go and 1320........
[Re: Kiddart]
#2656004
05/16/19 01:07 PM
05/16/19 01:07 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 19,361
Las Vegas
Al_Alguire
I Live Here
|
I Live Here
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 19,361
Las Vegas
|
Eventually we all face the same type of decision. I am a believer that if something no longer gives you joy then let it go so someone else can enjoy it. Racecars should be fun and when it ceases to be fun, or the economics don't allow for it to be used then sell it and move on to something that can be enjoyed.
"I am not ashamed to confess I am ignorant of what I do not know."
"It's never wrong to do the right thing"
|
|
|
Re: Letting the big car go and 1320........
[Re: Al_Alguire]
#2656014
05/16/19 01:20 PM
05/16/19 01:20 PM
|
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 20,164
PA.
pittsburghracer
"Little"John
|
"Little"John
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 20,164
PA.
|
If I bought one I would use and abuse it and end up in jail like I should have 40 years ago. And Johnny don't think he would like jail. My ashes are going to be spread at several local dragstrips in the pits so watch where you step.
1970 Duster
Edelbrock headed 408
5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27
Livin and lovin life one day at a time
|
|
|
Re: Letting the big car go and 1320........
[Re: JERICOGTX]
#2656032
05/16/19 02:55 PM
05/16/19 02:55 PM
|
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 1,073
oregon
greendart408
super stock
|
super stock
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 1,073
oregon
|
I have a lot of respect for the new stuff. Can't deny they handle well, stop well, and are way faster stock then Muscle cars ever were stock, but I just can't get into them, nor would I have a passion for it. Agreed
|
|
|
Re: Letting the big car go and 1320........
[Re: racerx]
#2656088
05/16/19 07:06 PM
05/16/19 07:06 PM
|
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 10,384
Upstate NY
Bigcube
I Live Here
|
I Live Here
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 10,384
Upstate NY
|
Just Wow.....does the other makes(GM,Ford) muscle come with the line lock/trans breaks)? I'm wondering if you could activate the tranny brake before the tree comes down?
Jim
|
|
|
Re: Letting the big car go and 1320........
[Re: Bigcube]
#2656161
05/16/19 11:54 PM
05/16/19 11:54 PM
|
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 4,066
Mo.
racerx
master
|
master
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 4,066
Mo.
|
Just Wow.....does the other makes(GM,Ford) muscle come with the line lock/trans breaks)? I'm wondering if you could activate the tranny brake before the tree comes down?  seems like a lot to do between pre-stage and stage. Wondering can you manual shift these trans?
|
|
|
Re: Letting the big car go and 1320........
[Re: racerx]
#2656181
05/17/19 07:21 AM
05/17/19 07:21 AM
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 8,021
Tulsa OK
Bad340fish
master
|
master
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 8,021
Tulsa OK
|
Just Wow.....does the other makes(GM,Ford) muscle come with the line lock/trans breaks)? I'm wondering if you could activate the tranny brake before the tree comes down? seems like a lot to do between pre-stage and stage. Wondering can you manual shift these trans? You can but I think you would be hard pressed to make it go any faster that way. The only way I see it helping would be leaving in 2nd gear or short shifting to help with traction.
68 Barracuda Formula S 340
|
|
|
Re: Letting the big car go and 1320........
[Re: Bad340fish]
#2656232
05/17/19 11:25 AM
05/17/19 11:25 AM
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 3,635
Oakland, MI
dizuster
master
|
master
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 3,635
Oakland, MI
|
I have a '16 scat pack challenger... it is absolutely amazing. I drive it year round... through the Michigan winters and all (with snow tires).
My little brother ran it last summer and it went 12.01@115mph in the dead middle of the muggy summer on a set of drag radials, so I'm sure in decent weather it's run well into the 11's without issue.
If you're looking for something you can cruise, enjoy, and click off some fun numbers... it's really hard to beat.
That being said... it is a REALLY SH*TTY bracket car. I ran it at monster mopar last year, and an NMCA race. The fly by wire throttle makes it nearly impossible to leave off the bottom bulb, and the consistency from pass to pass because of all the electronics leaves a lot to be desired. The 1320 might be a bit better because of the trans brake on the reaction times, but it's got the same motor as my car, so I can't see it being any more consistent.
I had the exact same thoughts of selling my turbo car, and buying a hellcat to dual purpose... but after making ~75 runs in my scat pack last year there is no way I can see one of these cars competitively bracket racing and going rounds in any sort of serious competition.
But again... if you're just looking for fun, the car is incredible. Comfortable, sounds good, goes good, stops good, turns good... can't deny that.
|
|
|
Re: Letting the big car go and 1320........
[Re: dizuster]
#2656294
05/17/19 03:20 PM
05/17/19 03:20 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,946
Windsor ,Ca.
Keith Richards
OP
master
|
OP
master
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,946
Windsor ,Ca.
|
I have a '16 scat pack challenger... it is absolutely amazing. I drive it year round... through the Michigan winters and all (with snow tires).
My little brother ran it last summer and it went 12.01@115mph in the dead middle of the muggy summer on a set of drag radials, so I'm sure in decent weather it's run well into the 11's without issue.
If you're looking for something you can cruise, enjoy, and click off some fun numbers... it's really hard to beat.
That being said... it is a REALLY SH*TTY bracket car. I ran it at monster mopar last year, and an NMCA race. The fly by wire throttle makes it nearly impossible to leave off the bottom bulb, and the consistency from pass to pass because of all the electronics leaves a lot to be desired. The 1320 might be a bit better because of the trans brake on the reaction times, but it's got the same motor as my car, so I can't see it being any more consistent.
I had the exact same thoughts of selling my turbo car, and buying a hellcat to dual purpose... but after making ~75 runs in my scat pack last year there is no way I can see one of these cars competitively bracket racing and going rounds in any sort of serious competition.
But again... if you're just looking for fun, the car is incredible. Comfortable, sounds good, goes good, stops good, turns good... can't deny that.
Do you have a catch can on it? I thought they were unnecessary but have since heard they are needed for consistency run to run as without oil can be dumped into the intake track and mess with sensors changing fueling, ect. Keith
|
|
|
Re: Letting the big car go and 1320........
[Re: racerx]
#2656359
05/17/19 06:41 PM
05/17/19 06:41 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 2,363
Cotati, CA
Dave Hall
top fuel
|
top fuel
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 2,363
Cotati, CA
|
Just Wow.....does the other makes(GM,Ford) muscle come with the line lock/trans breaks)? I'm wondering if you could activate the tranny brake before the tree comes down? seems like a lot to do between pre-stage and stage. Wondering can you manual shift these trans? Not sure if it will let you hit the limiter on shifting. The trans. brake was not explained correctly in the video. PRE-stage, pull both paddles back, bring the R's up and STAGE, let go of the one paddle and take your foot off the brake. Go on yellow...
|
|
|
Re: Letting the big car go and 1320........
[Re: Dave Hall]
#2656364
05/17/19 07:04 PM
05/17/19 07:04 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 2,636
Stuttgart, Arkansas
rickseeman
master
|
master
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 2,636
Stuttgart, Arkansas
|
The new cars are beyond belief. Nobody ever laid in bed at night and dreamed we would have cars like this available to us. Walk into the dealer with a small down payment and drive out with a new supercharged 797 hp Redeye. We are living in a dream world. But having said all that, in a bracket race, no new car has a chance against your current car. It has to do with traction and transbrake. Buy the new car if you like, but go to the track for fun, not to be competitive, they are too hard to drive.
2011 Drag Pak Challenger
|
|
|
|
|
I agree with John, I can't even afford ONE ticket! I agree with Al and have a tough time justifying keeping mine. It needs a bunch of little stuff to make it right again so I will take my time and fix stuff. I'll decide when I'm done if I want to go racing or sell it. 40K, car and battery charger, turn key. 
