Has anyone restored an original windshield washer pump for a 70-71 E-body? All of the repro and even most of the NOS ones I've seen for a 70-71 are wrong. I think they superseded the part. See attached pics. The new one has the hose outlet exiting straight down (into the frame rail). The original shows the 90 degree perpendicular exit. Has anyone reproduced the original style? If not, maybe B/E&A is up to it?

Am I missing any previous posts on this?

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bruce,
per the parts book they are all the same 2809013 = nipple points straight down.

I have a pump here with no part number, and it points outward per your used one shown - but it has the seperate ground lead as all the current repops and current Mopar pump has. Original ground leads were rivited to the case body.

ps- the junk / broken original I removed from my 1970 chall pointed straight down

Hmmm - Too bad my original is missing the small tab with the part number. BTW - It's the original off my T/A and the gound lead was riveted. I figured the one I have was right since the ones with the straight down outlet interfere with the framerail, as does the electrical connector. Anyone else?

Bill - Let me know if you want to sell the one without a part number. Thanks

Holy Cow are you actually bolting parts to the green thing !

Whoah! Let's not get carried away! This still fits in the gathering parts stage. No actual work has been done yet....

Bill - I found another one in my stash. The tab with the part number is mostly gone, but the last number remains and it's a "3". I think this is off a 71 based on the bottle shape.

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A few pictures of an 68 NOS pump.

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Snoop, does your original 1970 only parts book have 2 different pt numbers listed for various applications?

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Here are some photos of this scenario discovered on my own vehicles a number of years ago.

I had thought at that time that the hose nipple pointing toward the fan blade was the norm for 71 cars, and the nipple pointing downward toward the frame rail was the norm for 70 cars. I have observed numerous examples since, and although the majority are found as described, it is not gospel truth.

Also, based on all of these samples, there are least TWO vendors for these pumps (based on the five digit vendor code stamped into the housing), with the most popular version being the McCord piece, and at least TWO different 7-digit part numbers also stamped into the housing, and over the course of time, there are probably 8-10 variations of the canister (attachment method and/or end shape) and nearly as many variations of color combinations of the plastic portions of the pumps. Every NOS example (those found in a box) from the early 70's I have seen has had the nipple pointing downward toward the frame rail. If anyone has a true early vintage, favorably date-coded NOS pump with the nipple pointing toward the fan blade, consider it quite a find. I may need to break into your house to relieve you of it!

Bill Rolik

Another view!

Thanks,

Bill Rolik

You would be correct if you assumed that I performed due diligence to search for the 3431295 some time ago! I have never had this version in the "pump only" package, so I do not know if that box would have contained the pump with the nipple pointing toward the fan blade, but it is interesting food for thought!

Bill Rolik

Bill R,
I wonder if 3431295 was a production line part that never made it to the dealer. Chrysler would have assigned a new part number for a new part and put it in the Parts Book. But never put it in the supply chain because there was already a suitable substitute available, 2809013. That may explain the lack of NOS 3431295 pumps.

Just thinking out-loud.