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Re: Suspension Resto progress and experimentation..... [Re: cdp] #262332
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Re: Suspension Resto progress and experimentation..... [Re: cdp] #262333
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The directions say keep reusing it until the activation power is lost.

I thought about using muratic acid thats diluted, but its some pretty nasty stuff.



What did the latches look like after the soak?
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My latches are being restored by Dynamic Renovation along with most of my suspension hardware (nuts/bolts).

I'm sure by soaking them overnight, any coatings are gone. Look at the previos pic. with the door pulls and lock knob rods. A side by side comparison of the door pulls isn't the greatest, but it did remove the plating.

If you soaked for ... say...20-30 minutes, you'd probably be OK. I have a shifter mechanism thats in with my parts now (in for about 3 hours) and it is just now starting to become clean.

My plan is to clean alot of these parts up and then send them off to a plater. Mainly the stuff that gets seen.
Re: Suspension Resto progress and experimentation..... [Re: cdp] #262335
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Re: Suspension Resto progress and experimentation..... [Re: cdp] #262336
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overnight soak..



Dang !!! That's impressive.. Can you notice if any of the phosphate plating has been removed.. Looks good enough to clear and go.....

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Re: Suspension Resto progress and experimentation..... [Re: hemi68charger] #262337
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It is pretty amazing. I don't think I've found hardly any products that do exactly what they claim, but this stuff words. Both brands work really well.

I had some parts soak and had the original phosphate bolts in them and I'm pretty sure its been removed. They soaked overnight.

Some of what I have probably shouldn't have been soaked overnight, but, its too late now.

Here is a good example. I soaked one overnight and it removed the plating, I soaked the other for a few hours and it cleaned up really nice, but didn't remove the plating.

Some things you need to make the judgment call as to how clean you really want it.

The spray Rust Veto dries within 15 minutes. You can't even tell its on there. I think it will be good on newly plated parts as well.
Re: Suspension Resto progress and experimentation..... [Re: cdp] #262338
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Those parts look Good.
I guess I may go that route when I start my resto.
Thanks for the info and photos.
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I'll still have these parts plated. The are truely bare metal now and have no protective coating like the original zinc, cad, etc...

But it may be a bit cheaper to have them ready before I send them off.
Re: Suspension Resto progress and experimentation..... [Re: cdp] #262340
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But it may be a bit cheaper to have them ready before I send them off.


I've had a lot of stuff plated, in my experience you need to remove any paint, and I'd recommend removing any serious rust, but otherwise existing plating and surface rust will be removed as part of the process. I don't think you save any money doing a lot of prep because they have to really clean it with chemicals to prepare the surface for plating which deals with the rust etc.

Only other reason I found to prepare beforehand is if you want to change the finish of the part. Plating will not cover or change any surface characteristics. Mostly the original metal finish is what you want, but occasionally if a part has been marked I might glass bead it to get a uniform finish....but after plating it looks like a glass beaded part that has been plated !!
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Re: Suspension Resto progress and experimentation..... [Re: cdp] #262342
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Chris, how long did you leave the mechanism in solution? I've bought 2 gallons of the Evapo-Rust and have used it on some componets. I have all my window regulators out of the car as well...

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Re: Suspension Resto progress and experimentation..... [Re: cdp] #262343
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What powder did you use on the LCA?
Re: Suspension Resto progress and experimentation..... [Re: runningman] #262345
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I 1st used oven cleaner on them to get the grease/oil off. Which made a big difference from the start. All I did was let the oven cleaner set for a few minutes, then scrub with a plastic brush I got from harbor freight. Then I used Mean Grean on top of that, scrubbed some more, then hosed off real good with water.

Right afterwards, I soaked them in the evapo-rust (I have 4 gallons of Saferestremover) and let it set for about 20-30 minutes tops. I scrubbed the bolts, springs and hard to reach areas with another plastic bristle brush. Washed off, then coated with Rust-Veto.

The Rust Veto dried in 15 minutes. Done....
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Re: Suspension Resto progress and experimentation..... [Re: cdp] #262347
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... Washed off, then coated with Rust-Veto.

The Rust Veto dried in 15 minutes. Done....



Where did you get your Rust Veto? Is it an aerosol?

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Re: Suspension Resto progress and experimentation..... [Re: hemi68charger] #262348
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I ordered it from a company called Shafco. You'll have to order a case, which is about 75 bucks.

The good thing is, you can mix and match on thier products.

Weathershed, is "cosmoline" in a can. Which is what I used on my LCA's

Rust Veto, is a preservitive that dries (similar to MP50. Like a short term mold preservitive.

Cosmoline, is actually a penetrating oil.

Its a bit confusing, but if you go to their website, it explains it all. Check out the picture on this thread of the cans I have.

You could buy a can off ebay for about $10 with shipping. The Rust-Veto goes a long way.
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Thanks that looks good, I have a buddy that does powdercoating so I will have to find the correct powder for him to use.
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Dang !!! That's impressive.. Can you notice if any of the phosphate plating has been removed.. Looks good enough to clear and go.....

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From my experience and my buddy that's a painter, bare metal parts that are cleared especially from a spray can will rust from inside out.
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From my experience and my buddy that's a painter, bare metal parts that are cleared especially from a spray can will rust from inside out.



I have to agree, Ive done my share of home resto work and most everything cleared from a spray can will rust again. Im not sure of its the prep or the clear itself. I will say I have not used the Evap-O-rust or the Rust veto.
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