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How to remove orange peel amazingly
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10/14/06 07:10 PM
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sO to remove orange peel should i sand it with how much grit Wet OR dry. Ill do it tommrow when it dries completely.
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Re: OK round one and orange peel galore...
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10/14/06 07:29 PM
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I notified moderator in an attempt for help but i think ur only suppose to do that if something is wrong on a page...sorry if i screwed up haha
See my post on subject changes that's post is gone.
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Re: How to remove orange peel amazingly
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10/14/06 09:38 PM
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The wisdom seems to be, roll 2 thin coats (20% spirits or even 25%) then wet sand with 600 grit, 2 more coats then 800 grit wet sand smooth, 2 more then 1000 or 1500 grit and maybe 2 more if necessary and then 1500 or 2000 or even do the polish and buff then.
I painted a glove box and got a really nice shine and minor peel, I was quickly able to block wet sand it down to smooth.
Sadly, or not so sadly, I dropped the roll on method for my truck since I'm learning auto body at the tech school and have access to an amazing paint booth and all the tools to do it the "right" way so I'm gonna bc/cc the truck. But I'm not giving up on the roller I still think it's viable.
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Re: How to remove orange peel amazingly
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10/14/06 10:03 PM
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If you have all seen the Nissan S13 (white) i talk to him over email and through AOL and he says he used a 2:1 ratio of mineral spirits to paint. That is how thing he rolled his and it took him 8 coats. Im going to test the method tommorow. And his car looks amazing. As for the moderator he may or may not of been talking to me but i dont know what ur talkin about i never changed the subject. 
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Re: Paint job on a budget!? CONTINUED..page 44........
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10/15/06 01:09 PM
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sO to remove orange peel should i sand it with how much grit Wet OR dry. Ill do it tommrow when it dries completely.
Don't need to change the subject, as suggested. When you're making a post, don't change what's under the SUBJECT heading (e.g. don't need to type in "how to remove orange peel amazingly").
I'll say it again, go and read the thread rather than asking for someone to "spit out a number". In fact if you go back to the original thread you can read 69charger's original description which will work as good as any.
Orange peel issues have been done to death in this thread, yes it's big but there are good answers to nearly every question including prep, application, sanding, polishing, longevity, waxing, etc etc etc.
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Re: Paint job on a budget!? CONTINUED..page 44........
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10/15/06 07:04 PM
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i know ive asked a question that was answered long ago but i couldnt find it. can someone make a search in this complete thread so other people can find answers to q's already asked. then this wouldnt happen. i think it would be a great thing as it takes a month to read all the replys so far. keep up the grerat work everybody!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
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Re: Paint Job
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10/15/06 07:56 PM
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Im in the sauga aswell. Charger I think I've seen you at a gas station in PortCredit?
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From some other car forum using West Marine Sea Gloss
[Re: Exit1965]
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10/15/06 08:25 PM
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There seems to be quite a few people from sauga in this forum I was browsing the Honda Tech forums and they too have a mile long thread with rustoleam etc. One guy is currently painting his entire civic white with some paint called West Marine Sea Gloss Pro. If you follow this link: http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1555133&page=63The gloss on his car is pretty [Edited by Moparts - Keep it clean] good. I'm not sure if he's finished his car or not, but his latest post closely resembles a BC/CC job to me. From my readings, he's been using quite a bit of coats to get full coverage (somewhere b/w 6-8) straight from the can. For the door jams etc, he's been using a brush. The price of that paint is on the high side too, ~$99 US he quoted. Exit/Marq, how does your brightside glossyness compare to that guy's White civic in that link above?
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Re: Paint job on a budget!? CONTINUED..page 44........
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10/15/06 08:30 PM
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if i remember right, there was a wiki somewhere with the basic rundown on these methods. anyways i finished my test piece, my hood using rustoleum stop rust gloss black. i regret not sanding using a block because i can see some rippling and wavyness (not noticable in the pics) but am pretty suprised with the paint and the gloss (and i rushed it, i stopped sanding at 1500 and said the hell with it ill try to polish). ive never done any polishing so it was kinda an expiriement. i also used some 20 dollar buffer that i saw at schucks.  sorry there was dust on the lense...    next time i am going to lay teh coats heavir also. i think i must have done 10 coats or more, but i had the paint thinned to about 30%, then realized it was way too thin to be putting on. i think when i was sanding i sanded through to the original faded black paint, cause i can see weird little spots when i look close, what looks like water spots but its in the paint... 
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Re: From some other car forum using West Marine Sea Gloss
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10/15/06 09:04 PM
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I was browsing the Honda Tech forums and they too have a mile long thread with rustoleam etc. One guy is currently painting his entire civic white with some paint called West Marine Sea Gloss Pro. If you follow this link:
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1555133&page=63
Hey menappi... are you talking about fventura03? His paint looks great. But I thought he was spraying the interior?
Also ... about your $20 Schucks buffer, can you tell us more about that? Is it a random orbital or rotary buffer? What's the brand (so I can look it up on the net)? What size is the buffing pad?
Thanks.
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Re: From some other car forum using West Marine Sea Glo
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10/15/06 11:48 PM
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There seems to be quite a few people from sauga in this forum
I was browsing the Honda Tech forums and they too have a mile long thread with rustoleam etc. One guy is currently painting his entire civic white with some paint called West Marine Sea Gloss Pro. If you follow this link:
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1555133&page=63
The gloss on his car is pretty [Edited by Moparts - Keep it clean] good. I'm not sure if he's finished his car or not, but his latest post closely resembles a BC/CC job to me. From my readings, he's been using quite a bit of coats to get full coverage (somewhere b/w 6-8) straight from the can. For the door jams etc, he's been using a brush. The price of that paint is on the high side too, ~$99 US he quoted.
Exit/Marq, how does your brightside glossyness compare to that guy's White civic in that link above?
Looks like that guy is doing a nice job. I can see on some of his pics orange peel, which is expected when using straight from the can.
The west marine paint looks good, it is a few dollars cheaper per quart (I think it was about 26 as opposed to 34 for brighside or easypoxy) and they only have very basic colors. I think it said it had UV protection. They did have an off white, but I didn't feel like experimenting for the $20 savings. Nice to know someone else has tried it though. I also nearly bought Petit Easypoxy, which was the same price as brightside. I am sure these paints are VERY similar. They (like rustoleum and brightside) probably all smell like potato when wetsanding 
The gloss looks about the same (which is good), but I am not sure why it has taken him 6 coats when applying it full strength. From my one rolling experience, and one spraying experience, brightside covers well even when thinned. The gray of the primer under the single sprayed coat on my car is barely visible.
I had some natural light on the car today and found a funny area in the driver's door, so I fixed that and primered it, so I'll probably have to put another 2-3 coats on that door but only 1 more on the whole car, thinned around 15% with mineral spirits.
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Re: From some other car forum using West Marine Sea Glo
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10/15/06 11:54 PM
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Montanaman, in the honda-tech link menappi posted, there's a pic of his buffer. It's a coleman with a 6" pad. It's the exact same one I had, which my dog ate the pad and chewed off the power cord.
Before that, it worked well! I bought mine at walmart for I think $12, so it's worth checking there first before kragen to save some $. Mine came with a terry cloth cover as well as the cover pictured in menappi's photo. Is a random orbital job, single speed.
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Re: From some other car forum using West Marine Sea Glo
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10/16/06 12:43 AM
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yeah its a coleman single speed, random orbital. it came with two 6" pads. in the honda-tech post, the guy with the white marine paint rattlecanned the interior (not sure why, its all going to be covered anyways) and is rollin onthe outside. seems to be looking pretty nice though.
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Re: From some other car forum using West Marine Sea Glo
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10/16/06 07:15 AM
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Looks like that guy is doing a nice job. I can see on some of his pics orange peel, which is expected when using straight from the can.
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The gloss looks about the same (which is good), but I am not sure why it has taken him 6 coats when applying it full strength. From my one rolling experience, and one spraying experience, brightside covers well even when thinned. The gray of the primer under the single sprayed coat on my car is barely visible.
I had some natural light on the car today and found a funny area in the driver's door, so I fixed that and primered it, so I'll probably have to put another 2-3 coats on that door but only 1 more on the whole car, thinned around 15% with mineral spirits.
He mentioned that with more wetsanding, he may have eliminated almost all the orange peel.
I am also not sure why he did over 6 coats... I was thinking the paint was too thin straight from the can or perhaps he was wetsanding too much.
Can't wait to see the finished brightside exit.
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Re: From some other car forum using West Marine Sea Gloss
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10/16/06 07:18 AM
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Exit/Marq, how does your brightside glossyness compare to that guy's White civic in that link above?
I think my gloss and shine matches up to any clearcoat... 
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Re: Paint Job
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10/16/06 08:48 AM
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Im in the sauga aswell. Charger I think I've seen you at a gas station in PortCredit?
that would have been me yes. 
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Re: From some other car forum using West Marine Sea Glo
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10/16/06 08:43 PM
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Exit and Menappi: Thanks for the answers. Have either of you been able to use the Porter Cable unit? I'm hoping for a direct comparison as kind of a cost/benefit analysis. The question being, is the PC worth the extra cost? Quote:
Montanaman, in the honda-tech link menappi posted, there's a pic of his buffer. It's a coleman with a 6" pad. It's the exact same one I had, which my dog ate the pad and chewed off the power cord.
Before that, it worked well! I bought mine at walmart for I think $12, so it's worth checking there first before kragen to save some $. Mine came with a terry cloth cover as well as the cover pictured in menappi's photo. Is a random orbital job, single speed.
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Re: From some other car forum using West Marine Sea Glo
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10/16/06 09:18 PM
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why spend 100+ dollars on a 50 dollar paint job. the whole concept of this is more work, less money. that 20 dollar buffer thing i have seem sto work fine. ive never used a machine like that, so i would rather use a cheap on and screw up then an expensive one and screw up more.
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