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Re: Paint job on a budget!? CONTINUED..page 44........
[Re: Wyl E Coyote]
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why hasn't anyone tried to roll on single stage auto paint? It shouldn't be any differnt, yes more expensive..but you get the mettallic look and b5 blue im sure.
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Re: Paint job on a budget!? CONTINUED..page 44........
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why hasn't anyone tried to roll on single stage auto paint? It shouldn't be any differnt, yes more expensive..but you get the mettallic look and b5 blue im sure.
Steve
i don't think the issue is the type of metallic paints. i think it's just an issue that metallic paints can't be rolled by their very nature. they require fine atomization in order to distribute the flake evenly. when you open a can of metallic paint it really swirls and sticks together. i'd think that if you rolled on metallic paint it would leave streaks of metallic paint and streaks of non-metallic (or low density metallic) paints.
hell, when i was in high school my friend's dad restored and painted his beetle with metallic blue. the paint job looked pretty good from ten feet away but when you got closer you could see how swirly and splotchy the flake distribution was. and that was from spraying. maybe they sprayed too thick a coat or didn't mix the product well enough.
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Re: Paint job on a budget!? CONTINUED..page 44........
[Re: admactanium]
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TY for your detailed post Admactanium. It motivated me to go out and purchase one of the Random Orbital Polishers. After a few hours with Harbor Freight Orbital Sander/Polisher, I am starting to see the gloss come out of the haze. I suspect, even with Turtle Wax products mind you, with a proper Polisher, and proper attachments/bonnets, I will get satisfactory results in less time. THANKS again all posters that have developed techniques that idiots like myself can follow.
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Re: Profesional Results?
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All my tremclad cars and the 1st one very soon to be tremclad'd white with a black roof with blue pearl. The red/black one i added 15g of red pearl into the base then sprayed tremclad clear..looks amazing when the sun hits it..the clear is rather hard to spray(i used a spray gun vs roller so i could use pearl) and you cant use mineral spirits with the clearcoat. The Black car i used flake..depending how you look at it it could appear like yellow flake green or blue...its a beater/joke car.
Very nice spray man. I'm from sauga too. I see you used Tremclad. I was going to use that, but am opting for the Brightside paint for more shine hopefully. What spray gun did you use?
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Re: Paint job on a budget!? CONTINUED..page 44........
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TY for your detailed post Admactanium. It motivated me to go out and purchase one of the Random Orbital Polishers. After a few hours with Harbor Freight Orbital Sander/Polisher, I am starting to see the gloss come out of the haze. I suspect, even with Turtle Wax products mind you, with a proper Polisher, and proper attachments/bonnets, I will get satisfactory results in less time. THANKS again all posters that have developed techniques that idiots like myself can follow.
post some pics of the results.  i think you could get good results using turtle wax. but if you have a pep boys nearby you could pick up some meguiars or 3m polishes that are really good. i've seen both of those lines pretty extensively at my local pep boys.
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Re: Paint Job
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Rustoleum or brightside?
Either way, they are similar in application. Thin brightside with either their thinner, or mineral spirits. The ratio I'm going to use next is 15% thinned, since 10% sprayed levels out OK when sprayed in correct amounts. Then roll on.
Wetsand after each coat to get rid of orange peel and imperfections, with 800 grit. Last coat, let it set for a few weeks, then hit with 2000 grit wet, then polish and wax.
That's the basic recipe. The best thing to do is to buy the materials (fine foam rollers from home depot or lowes, in a 5 pack for about $6) and do a test piece. It's a pretty easy thing to do with a roller.
The worst thing you can do is waste paint. If anything goes terribly wrong you can just wetsand it down and paint again. Unless you're slathering the paint on too thick, you shouldn't get any runs or anything that would require the whole thing to be sanded off.
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Re: Paint Job
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10/11/06 07:35 AM
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Is there a page were everything needed to get started and basic instructions are listed? 40 Pages is a lot of reading to get caught up on this process... Can someone give a quick lesson from the beginning or refer me to a page where this is (Supplies, mixing ratio, application)? 
In a way... I think every user who is thinking about doing this type of paint job on their car SHOULD be reading all the messages.
The problem with just reading a recipe is that you are not fully prepared for all the variables and 'Murphy Law' type events that 'might' happen.
By walking into this project fully informed, you will be in a better position to deal with any curves that might get thrown at you during the process.
I know that like many folks here, I began by reading the original thread and it kept me up for almost four hours as I read every tidbit of information in the thread.
Now that this topic is covering two complete threads, ( the original thread now being archived for posterity and non-deletion ) and ( the current thread which at this moment is touching on 40 pages )... It might be useful for new readers to this thread to at least start their studying at the beginning of this thread.
Not only will the new readers have a better understanding of this painting process, but as well MANY OF THE SIMPLE QUESTIONS will have already been answered and it will cut down on people re-asking questions that have already been fully responded to.
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Re: Paint Job
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Really interested in how your White Brightside paint job turns out Exit. I was going through another forum where members were painting their Honda civics/Integras. One complaint they all had was the dull finish that Tremclad/Rustolean gave. Another thing I noticed was that the majority of people painting their cars chose the colour white since it hides defects well. My car is currently white, but going to black wouldn't be a bad idea if it turns out alright. Really interested in how well Aussie's paint turns out.
Is there anyone here painting their car Brightside Black using the roller technique and is complete? I've only seen the black sprayed.
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Re: Paint Job
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On my car the gloss black Brightside has withstood the elements much better than the paint from my first attempt.
One of my collegues here at school (I'm a teacher) has a black VW Bora and she occasionally parks next to my car. The Brightside certainly doesn't look bad next to a factory paint job, and I'm still a couple of weeks away from my final wetsand and polishing.
So far my impressions of the Brightside are fantastic.
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Re: Paint Job
[Re: Exit1965]
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10/11/06 05:13 PM
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Dave don't want to second guess you or anyone else I but I don't think I'll use the any thinner except what Interlux's brand either the 216 or 333 if I'm remembering right, but if its working for you can't knock that..
Mineral Spirits just doesn't in my mind seem right for polyurethane paint..
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