Re: Racing Class only allows iron heads - best option for LA
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01/12/19 10:15 PM
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The heads Andy posted the pic of...... those would be the hot ticket right there.
68 Satellite, 383 with stock 906’s, 3550lbs, 11.18@123 Dealer for Comp Cams/Indy Heads
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Re: Racing Class only allows iron heads - best option for LA
[Re: roadracecuda]
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01/12/19 11:05 PM
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If you get those, the next challenge may be the rocker gear. That head takes specific shaft hold downs. Make sure too that the shafts you get for the W2's have oil passages that line up with the rockers. In the mid 80's I cooked 2 shafts, 8 bushed rockers, same on pushrods, because the oil passages did not line up unless the rocker was almost vertical. This was a problem that Mopar and others like Hamburger did not address. I got new pieces and laid in some grooves on the shafts after talking it over with Lee Muir who helped design the heads and ran Mopars west coast r&d up by Laguna Seca called Shadow Racing. He had stacks of heads, rockers,parts etc left over from Petty's operation when they worked together.
Carl Kessel
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Re: Racing Class only allows iron heads - best option for LA
[Re: roadracecuda]
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01/13/19 12:57 AM
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If you go that route only buy steel stands, the mopar aluminum will break. There are some problem rocker parts out there, most was the early stuff, by the 90s the stuff was sorted out pretty well, heads got thicker decks, thicker exhaust flanges, and stiffening ribs around the lower head bolt row. It is also very apparent the ports were a little better on late heads, and the ends took on the magnum head look. Around here in the late 90s some of the chevy stock car guys were running mopar because the w-2 was a legal head and made more power with a 4bbl than the bowties of the time, otherwise they had to run a 2bbl with aluminum. The late heads will easily get you the power you need and be dependable, I would run harlan sharp since rollers are legal.
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Re: Racing Class only allows iron heads - best option for LA
[Re: roadracecuda]
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01/13/19 01:04 AM
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As for the w2 rocker gear....... I’d just run t&d’s and use pushrod oiling.
68 Satellite, 383 with stock 906’s, 3550lbs, 11.18@123 Dealer for Comp Cams/Indy Heads
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Re: Racing Class only allows iron heads - best option for LA
[Re: roadracecuda]
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01/13/19 01:33 PM
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If they're super picky and won't allow the W2 heads your next best bet would be to find a set of 1970 915 340 six pack heads. With the offset intake pushrod you can really port those intake ports for a LOT better flow. Make sure they're the 915's with the offset pushrods.
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Re: Racing Class only allows iron heads - best option for LA
[Re: roadracecuda]
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01/13/19 05:35 PM
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If Andy is going to sell those heads I'd jump. Then I'd call Norris and see if you can get some stainless rockers for them.
Someone already said to correct the oiling on the shafts. This is 100% correct. The oil hole in the shaft absolutely MUST line up with the oil hole in the rocker with the valve on the seat. I personally have never seen a set of shafts that were drilled correctly. It's a PITA to do but it needs to be done.
You'll kill most anything if you can run W-2's.
Just because you think it won't make it true. Horsepower is KING. To dispute this is stupid. C. Alston
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Re: Racing Class only allows iron heads - best option for LA
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![laugh2 laugh2](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/custom/laugh2.gif) , OP might best also do some research on best sandbagging tricks. If I remember correctly, decades back at Hialeah Speedway in Miami, a Challenger was similarity equipped, they even allowed mopar SB's to have greater lift cam specs, since they were so "disadvantaged" and rare, the Challenger always ran down the field, no matter where he started, for awhile.
Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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Re: Racing Class only allows iron heads - best option for LA
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01/13/19 10:18 PM
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I think Norris is out of business, but if they are still at it, they made a really bitchin set of cast stainless roller rockers.
Carl Kessel
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Re: Racing Class only allows iron heads - best option for LA
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I think Norris is out of business, but if they are still at it, they made a really bitchin set of cast stainless roller rockers. Last time I checked, they were still making them and that was less than 2 years ago. If you google them you can find the phone number even though it comes up as a Volkswagen site.
Just because you think it won't make it true. Horsepower is KING. To dispute this is stupid. C. Alston
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Re: Racing Class only allows iron heads - best option for LA
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Smokey was a true master of the gray area concerning anything on a race car. ![up up](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/custom/thumbs_up.gif) Many rules came to be because of Smokey's work in "gray areas". ![biggrin biggrin](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/custom/biggrin.gif) Tim
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