Re: Using a box truck as a race car hauler???
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same here thought it would be cool to make one of these into a hauler But the U hauls do not have flat floors, they have internal wheel wells, and they are IMO kinda of sissy trucks? Not sure what the real advantage is.
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Re: Using a box truck as a race car hauler???
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What is the disadvantage of just using a 4400# lift gate for the car and a walk through door on the side?
Doug
MOPAR or NO CAR!!! 1965 Dodge Coronet soon a 6.1 Hemi with a Magnson blower 810 hp on pump gas 1964 Dodge Polara 582" Indy alum Block 426-1RA heads, 1933 Plymouth PE all Steel, LT1 4L60E 1959 Plymouth Savoy 33,000 mile survivor Old cars are never done. They are ongoing projects!
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Re: Using a box truck as a race car hauler???
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The further you have the deck out in-order to have your car sit on it the load on the hydraulics will exceed the lift capability.
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Re: Using a box truck as a race car hauler???
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I got my box truck/hauler home after a 1500 mile drive. It’s a little under powered with a 5.9 Cummins but some 75hp injectors will help. It drove like a dream and for $20k I couldn’t replace my enclosed trailer for the price. Hopefully now the lift gate will lift my car. It’s a 4400# lift gate but 1/2 the car will be on extended ramps!
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MOPAR or NO CAR!!! 1965 Dodge Coronet soon a 6.1 Hemi with a Magnson blower 810 hp on pump gas 1964 Dodge Polara 582" Indy alum Block 426-1RA heads, 1933 Plymouth PE all Steel, LT1 4L60E 1959 Plymouth Savoy 33,000 mile survivor Old cars are never done. They are ongoing projects!
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Re: Using a box truck as a race car hauler???
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It's a tempting idea, but the Oleyniks we used had beavertails and much lower rear sill (floor) height; yet the ramps still had to be at least 8 feet long and positively lock into the sill. Very tough deal to modify the rear rails & floor to make a beavertail out of a "normal" box truck. I've seen some moving vans that sit lower, but still iffy on load height and then there's the wheelwells. Medium-duty truck maintenance is not like working on a pickup; stuff might last longer, but it's half again as large and seems like triple the weight! We'd get a million miles or so out of a GMC 6500, but any wheel/tire/suspension/brake/drivetrain maintenance was a back-breaker. Yes,the Oleyniks built most of the haulers back in the day including the 77 S&M hauler now owned by a close friend.The 413 has been replaced with a Cummings out of a pickup along with the dash being grafted into the cab.The 2 speed rear is disconnected but I could not keep up to it with my 2010 Hino rollback.So maybe more boost or a gear change could help that issue. One other thing,air brakes are an endorsement only on a CDL.......
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Re: Using a box truck as a race car hauler???
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This was $20k and I figured I may have another $15k in when I’m done with bathroom and kitchenette, insulation and AC.
Doug
MOPAR or NO CAR!!! 1965 Dodge Coronet soon a 6.1 Hemi with a Magnson blower 810 hp on pump gas 1964 Dodge Polara 582" Indy alum Block 426-1RA heads, 1933 Plymouth PE all Steel, LT1 4L60E 1959 Plymouth Savoy 33,000 mile survivor Old cars are never done. They are ongoing projects!
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Re: Using a box truck as a race car hauler???
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It’s a 2000. There are a lot of injector choices out there and I still may go with a tuner. I may need to get creative with the lift gate . I think you're going to be disappointed with that lift gate plan. Take a look at how the gate works on a stacker trailer as that's where you're going to end up I think.
The rest of the plan sounds good. If Texas won't let you register it as a motorhome after the required components are installed and I seriously doubt they won't, find a state that will.
What year is the truck? Those 75 hp injectors are usually a 12 Valve deal which is 98 and older. If it's got a common rail injected engine, 2003 or newer IIRC, more power is a Bullydog tuner or preferred brand away. No hardware changes unless you're planning to get silly. The 98.5 - 2002 24V with the VP44 pump doesn't have as much tuner support but 75-100 hp can be had with an Edge EZ box and no hardware changes.
What trans and rear axle ratio?
Kevin
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MOPAR or NO CAR!!! 1965 Dodge Coronet soon a 6.1 Hemi with a Magnson blower 810 hp on pump gas 1964 Dodge Polara 582" Indy alum Block 426-1RA heads, 1933 Plymouth PE all Steel, LT1 4L60E 1959 Plymouth Savoy 33,000 mile survivor Old cars are never done. They are ongoing projects!
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Re: Using a box truck as a race car hauler???
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Neat truck but, I think you are going to run into problems with your plan
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Re: Using a box truck as a race car hauler???
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Thanks for all the input. Worse case I have a line of a full lift gate made to lift car. We will see how it all goes... Maybe I should test it with my wife’s car when she is not home. Lol 😂
Doug
MOPAR or NO CAR!!! 1965 Dodge Coronet soon a 6.1 Hemi with a Magnson blower 810 hp on pump gas 1964 Dodge Polara 582" Indy alum Block 426-1RA heads, 1933 Plymouth PE all Steel, LT1 4L60E 1959 Plymouth Savoy 33,000 mile survivor Old cars are never done. They are ongoing projects!
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Re: Using a box truck as a race car hauler???
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Maybe I should test it with my wife’s car when she is not home. Lol 😂 THERE'S an idea!!! Lol Kevin
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Re: Using a box truck as a race car hauler???
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Does it have a Jake Brake on the truck now? If not I would add it for safely stopping it I agree on not using that lift gate to support the car while traveling I've owned and used a bunch of different car trailesr and car hauler trucks from one ton crew cabs with open beds and ramps to a early Dodge D500 with a flat head six and a two speed rear axle that ended up with a 392 Hemi in it, which helped that old rascal a bunch I wrecked (totaled) a friends car on a borrowed open trailer that total the Hemi GTX NHRA stocker and hurt the trailer and my 1/2 ton Ford pickup due to not having enough stopping power to avoid a dog running out in front of the truck on the way to the races, the dog got hung up the right front wheel well and jerk the steering wheel out of my hand which resulted in jack knifing the car and trailer Multiple mistakes compounded and ruined our day I've not towed anything with a 1/2 ton pickup since, that accident happened in 1973
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Re: Using a box truck as a race car hauler???
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same here thought it would be cool to make one of these into a hauler But the U hauls do not have flat floors, they have internal wheel wells, and they are IMO kinda of sissy trucks? Not sure what the real advantage is. JCC you would just build ramps over the wheel wells. Saw that in a hauler that Mr. 4 Speed Herb McCandless had back in 72 for his Pro Stock Demon. The car was not hauled Flat, It was on a tilt like on an open Ramp Truck.
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Re: Using a box truck as a race car hauler???
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I will be putting a jake brake on it. It does have new brakes and drums all the way around and the brakes are air brakes. Safety will always be first. I will always own a newer 3/4 or 1 ton truck. I have a new 3500 dually with 1500 miles on it to tow if needed. I really bought the truck because I think it will be cool/convenient when done. To be honest with all my time being taken with businesses and with young kids I may not race for a few years anyways. It will be fun to tinker on and make just the way I want it when time allows.
Doug
MOPAR or NO CAR!!! 1965 Dodge Coronet soon a 6.1 Hemi with a Magnson blower 810 hp on pump gas 1964 Dodge Polara 582" Indy alum Block 426-1RA heads, 1933 Plymouth PE all Steel, LT1 4L60E 1959 Plymouth Savoy 33,000 mile survivor Old cars are never done. They are ongoing projects!
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