Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 2 of 2 1 2
Re: Later 440's have sodium filled valves?? [Re: Supercuda] #2594688
12/20/18 01:50 PM
12/20/18 01:50 PM
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 23,533
Here
J
jcc Offline
If you can't dazzle em with diamonds..
jcc  Offline
If you can't dazzle em with diamonds..
J

Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 23,533
Here
Originally Posted By Supercuda
that was the pea rattling around in your head.


"Psychological projection - Wikipedia
Psychological projection is a defence mechanism in which the human ego defends itself against unconscious impulses or qualities (both positive and negative) by denying their existence in themselves while attributing them to others." stirthepot


"When one’s appeal is emotional, it does not matter if there is no substance."
Re: Later 440's have sodium filled valves?? [Re: jcc] #2594704
12/20/18 02:43 PM
12/20/18 02:43 PM
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 43,903
Bend,OR USA
C
Cab_Burge Online work
I Win
Cab_Burge  Online Work
I Win
C

Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 43,903
Bend,OR USA
Originally Posted By jcc

Was there a loose weight/plunger inside to facilitate fluid move?
Thought I remember a click when shaken,

Sodium is salt, correct?
I redid a Ford FE 427 Holman and Moody side oiler boat motor for a friend, I could hear something sliding around in the exhaust valve stems when I shook them shruggy


Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)
Re: Later 440's have sodium filled valves?? [Re: Cab_Burge] #2594708
12/20/18 02:52 PM
12/20/18 02:52 PM
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 3,479
N.W. Florida
F
Fat_Mike Offline
master
Fat_Mike  Offline
master
F

Joined: May 2003
Posts: 3,479
N.W. Florida
Originally Posted By Cab_Burge
Originally Posted By jcc

Was there a loose weight/plunger inside to facilitate fluid move?
Thought I remember a click when shaken,

Sodium is salt, correct?


Only in part. Salt is sodium chloride (nacl).

https://www.google.com/search?q=sodium&a...me&ie=UTF-8

Re: Later 440's have sodium filled valves?? [Re: Fat_Mike] #2595086
12/21/18 01:57 PM
12/21/18 01:57 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 16,376
D
dogdays Offline
I Live Here
dogdays  Offline
I Live Here
D

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 16,376
The 4.5 Mercedes V8 that was used for so many years had sodium filled exhaust valves. Lose the 6' long timing chain and one would find out. Back in about 1984 they were $28 each.

The deal is, the sodium doesn't fill the whole tube, only half. Then when the valve gets hot the sodium melts and physically transports the heat to the valve stem and head.

R.

Re: Later 440's have sodium filled valves?? [Re: Cab_Burge] #2595164
12/21/18 05:59 PM
12/21/18 05:59 PM
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 23,533
Here
J
jcc Offline
If you can't dazzle em with diamonds..
jcc  Offline
If you can't dazzle em with diamonds..
J

Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 23,533
Here
Originally Posted By Cab_Burge
Originally Posted By jcc

Was there a loose weight/plunger inside to facilitate fluid move?
Thought I remember a click when shaken,

Sodium is salt, correct?
I redid a Ford FE 427 Holman and Moody side oiler boat motor for a friend, I could hear something sliding around in the exhaust valve stems when I shook them shruggy


Its actually a low melting temp metal, that is very reactive, one reason it transfers heat well in this application.

Last edited by jcc; 12/21/18 06:00 PM.

"When one’s appeal is emotional, it does not matter if there is no substance."
Re: Later 440's have sodium filled valves?? [Re: jcc] #2595180
12/21/18 06:49 PM
12/21/18 06:49 PM
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 2,644
North Carolina
sasquatch Offline
master
sasquatch  Offline
master

Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 2,644
North Carolina
The A148 NASCAR hemi had them and I think John Aruzza told me that the Ball stud hemi had them as well. I have one on the shelf in my office.
Todd

Re: Later 440's have sodium filled valves?? [Re: Prodart440] #2595730
12/23/18 10:29 AM
12/23/18 10:29 AM
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 8,162
USA
3
360view Offline
Moparts resident spammer
360view  Offline
Moparts resident spammer
3

Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 8,162
USA
If the 5.7 V8 still has solid exhaust valves,
and the 6.4 has sodium filled exhaust valves,
how could two owners design an experiment to measure
the effect of the different valves
on when a cylinder first has audible pinging in real world use?

Maybe some kind of hill climb on a hot dry summer day?

Re: Later 440's have sodium filled valves?? [Re: Prodart440] #2595735
12/23/18 10:34 AM
12/23/18 10:34 AM
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 8,162
USA
3
360view Offline
Moparts resident spammer
360view  Offline
Moparts resident spammer
3

Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 8,162
USA
Sample quote

Compression ratio is another factor that affects performance and engine power. The only thing that creates engine power is the size of the explosion of fuel and air in the combustion chambers and more compression creates a bigger the explosion. Once compression ratios start to get bigger, regular fuel can start to ignite before the spark plugs ignites and this can cause problems. So to prevent that from happening, manufacturers recommend or require higher octane fuel (can withstand a greater compression before igniting) on engines that have higher compression ratios.

The 6.4L SRT engine has a compression ratio of 10.9:1, which is significantly higher than the 3.6L engine’s compression ratio of 10.2:1 or the 5.7L HEMI engines compression ratio of 10.5:1. Premium gas (highest octane) is recommended for the 6.4L SRT engine, whereas midgrade gas is recommended for the 5.7L HEMI and regular gas is recommended for the 3.6L engine.
End quote

Truck version of the 6.4 has a lower static CR of 10

From
https://www.universitydodge.com/dodge-gearhead-6-4l-srt-engine-performance-specs/

Page 2 of 2 1 2






Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.1