Let's stir the pot up a little. Which body?

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Let's stir the pot up a little. Which body? #2583510
11/27/18 12:17 AM 11/27/18 12:17 AM

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So, I have to replace the steel back half on the Cuda. But I'm also thinking of going late model. Will cost me about the same either way. Don't look at the butt ugly scoop.

Re: Let's stir the pot up a little. Which body? [Re: sgcuda] #2583516 11/27/18 12:28 AM 11/27/18 12:28 AM
Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 3,036 bean town ....Ca W WHITEDART master
WHITEDART master W Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 3,036 bean town ....Ca	Well I wish I could have voted 10 times for the new car but it wouldn't let me In the 8s N/A.with Brett miller W8's 5.07 at 133 at 2700lb

Re: Let's stir the pot up a little. Which body? [Re: sgcuda] #2583527 11/27/18 12:43 AM 11/27/18 12:43 AM
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Superfreak Unregistered S	I think the new car just makes more sense in this application.

Re: Let's stir the pot up a little. Which body? [Re: sgcuda] #2583585 11/27/18 08:32 AM 11/27/18 08:32 AM
Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 4,169 Mo. racerx master
racerx master Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 4,169 Mo.	I'm just an old school type cat tho. But the new school thing is growing.

Re: Let's stir the pot up a little. Which body? [Re: sgcuda] #2583586 11/27/18 08:42 AM 11/27/18 08:42 AM
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 758 Rochester, PA (near Pittsburgh... 1 1974 474 Duster super stock
1974 474 Duster super stock 1 Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 758 Rochester, PA (near Pittsburgh...	The newer bodies def have some advantages. More room for sure, but like the others I'm just to into the old school cars See ya, Ken

Re: Let's stir the pot up a little. Which body? [Re: sgcuda] #2583587 11/27/18 08:54 AM 11/27/18 08:54 AM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,243 Charlotte, North Carolina sgcuda OP master
sgcuda OP master Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,243 Charlotte, North Carolina	So far, the results are pretty much split down the middle. I find that interesting. I had the same results asking coworkers at the dealership. I sure wish I had the money, room and time to support 2 cars. If nothing else, I might just build up both bodies and make them interchangeable.

Re: Let's stir the pot up a little. Which body? [Re: sgcuda] #2583614 11/27/18 10:13 AM 11/27/18 10:13 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 13,543 Marion, South Carolina [><] an8sec70cuda I Live Here
an8sec70cuda I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 13,543 Marion, South Carolina [><]	Should have sold the cuda to a resto guy like I mentioned to you years ago if you were gonna go this route. Like I also said before, the new crap is everywhere and just blends in. Keep the cuda. CHIP '70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60 '69 road runner, 440-6, 4 speed, Dana 60 '71 Demon 340, no drivetrain, on blocks behind the barn '73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75 '90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt '06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax

Re: Let's stir the pot up a little. Which body? [Re: sgcuda] #2583624 11/27/18 10:52 AM 11/27/18 10:52 AM
Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 1,454 Glendora Ca. J Just-a-dart pro stock
Just-a-dart pro stock J Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 1,454 Glendora Ca.	In a few years the new stuff will look dated, the old stuff will still be "classic". Also how can you pi$$ off the restoration guys if you build with new metal? Last edited by Just-a-dart; 11/27/18 10:52 AM. "Just a Bracket car dressed up like a streetcar"

Re: Let's stir the pot up a little. Which body? [Re: sgcuda] #2583681 11/27/18 01:35 PM 11/27/18 01:35 PM
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,363 Cotati, CA Dave Hall top fuel
Dave Hall top fuel Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,363 Cotati, CA	I'm wondering why the steel roof and quarters need to be replaced?

Re: Let's stir the pot up a little. Which body? [Re: sgcuda] #2583685 11/27/18 01:40 PM 11/27/18 01:40 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 13,543 Marion, South Carolina [><] an8sec70cuda I Live Here
an8sec70cuda I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 13,543 Marion, South Carolina [><]	Isn't the wheelbase a good bit longer on the new challengers anyway? The old ones were longer too. CHIP '70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60 '69 road runner, 440-6, 4 speed, Dana 60 '71 Demon 340, no drivetrain, on blocks behind the barn '73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75 '90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt '06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax

Re: Let's stir the pot up a little. Which body? [Re: an8sec70cuda] #2583704 11/27/18 02:21 PM 11/27/18 02:21 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,919 Bend,OR USA C Cab_Burge I Win
Cab_Burge I Win C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,919 Bend,OR USA	The old B,E, and A body Dodge and Plymouth all had different length wheelbases on them, 108 on Plymouth A bodies, 110 inches on Dodges A bodies, same lengths on the E bodies. 115 or 116 on Plymouth B bodies and 117 and 119 on some of the Dodge B bodies is what I remember now I like the old school cars because they where and are what I owned and race starting in 1964 Last edited by Cab_Burge; 11/27/18 02:45 PM. Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)

Re: Let's stir the pot up a little. Which body? [Re: sgcuda] #2583708 11/27/18 02:24 PM 11/27/18 02:24 PM
Joined: May 2015 Posts: 1,134 Lost in Time Iowan super stock
Iowan super stock Joined: May 2015 Posts: 1,134 Lost in Time	If you use the new body just have to make sure it's faster than the internets Hellcats. Lol Have a great day Iowan "obsolete is neat"

Re: Let's stir the pot up a little. Which body? [Re: sgcuda] #2583734 11/27/18 03:20 PM 11/27/18 03:20 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 13,543 Marion, South Carolina [><] an8sec70cuda I Live Here
an8sec70cuda I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 13,543 Marion, South Carolina [><]	'70-'74 cuda wheelbase is 108" '70-'74 challenger is 110" new challenger is 116" CHIP '70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60 '69 road runner, 440-6, 4 speed, Dana 60 '71 Demon 340, no drivetrain, on blocks behind the barn '73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75 '90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt '06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax

Re: Let's stir the pot up a little. Which body? [Re: sgcuda] #2583738 11/27/18 03:25 PM 11/27/18 03:25 PM
Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,265 IL furious70 top fuel
furious70 top fuel Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,265 IL	hasn't it been a pretty well worn path to build a serious race car out of a modern car (for many types of class racing) but then have your classic toys? If you can only have 1 car, then you have to choose I guess. Real 1st world problem 70 Sport Fury 68 Charger 69 Coronet 72 RR

Re: Let's stir the pot up a little. Which body? [Re: an8sec70cuda] #2583748 11/27/18 03:41 PM 11/27/18 03:41 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 18,049 S.E. Michigan ZIPPY I Live Here
ZIPPY I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 18,049 S.E. Michigan	Originally Posted By an8sec70cuda '70-'74 cuda wheelbase is 108" '70-'74 challenger is 110" new challenger is 116" New Challenger, to me, driving it has always "felt" much more like a B body and I believe that is one of the reasons why. Can't say whether that's positive or negative, it's in the eye of the beholder.... Rich H. Esse Quam Videri

Re: Let's stir the pot up a little. Which body? [Re: ZIPPY] #2583759 11/27/18 04:17 PM 11/27/18 04:17 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,462 Eagle, Idaho Neil The Doctor is in.
Neil The Doctor is in. Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,462 Eagle, Idaho	New ones are too slab sided. Old cars have better proportions.

Re: Let's stir the pot up a little. Which body? [Re: sgcuda] #2583760 11/27/18 04:19 PM 11/27/18 04:19 PM
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 4,663 Motor City 6 6PKRTSE master
6PKRTSE master 6 Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 4,663 Motor City	I own both, new & old. One of each & I would definitely go with the Cuda. New Challengers are everywhere.... 1963 Belvedere 440 Max Wedge Tribute 1970 Charger R/T S.E. 440 Six Pack 1970 Challenger R/T, 528 Hemi 1970 Charger 500 S.E. 440 4 BBL 1970 Plymouth Road Runner 383 1974 Chrysler New Yorker 440 1996 2500 RAM 488 V-10 4X4 2004 3500 Dually Cummins 4x4 2012 Challenger R/T Classic.

Re: Let's stir the pot up a little. Which body? [Re: sgcuda] #2583773 11/27/18 04:45 PM 11/27/18 04:45 PM
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 12,601 Fulton County, PA C CMcAllister Mr. Helpful
CMcAllister Mr. Helpful C Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 12,601 Fulton County, PA	I vote...depends. Which can be made lighter, since I'm anal about weight? I like the new stuff OK, but I really like the chrome bumper, flat hood look. If I were doing a new Challenger body, I would slide the rear axle forward 6" or so after playing with mockup illustrations to see what works best. That would help weight distribution and make the car look better IMO. The proportions just never looked "right" to me. If the rules wouldn't let me do that, I'd likely go old school. If the results don't match the theory, change the theory.

Re: Let's stir the pot up a little. Which body? [Re: sgcuda] #2583778 11/27/18 05:08 PM 11/27/18 05:08 PM
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dvw I Live Here Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 10,053 MI, usa	Why not use what you already own? Not to mention the wheelbase isn't even close. Doug

Re: Let's stir the pot up a little. Which body? [Re: CMcAllister] #2583779 11/27/18 05:09 PM 11/27/18 05:09 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Originally Posted By CMcAllister I vote...depends. Which can be made lighter, since I'm anal about weight? I like the new stuff OK, but I really like the chrome bumper, flat hood look. If I were doing a new Challenger body, I would slide the rear axle forward 6" or so after playing with mockup illustrations to see what works best. That would help weight distribution and make the car look better IMO. The proportions just never looked "right" to me. If the rules wouldn't let me do that, I'd likely go old school. Like you I REALLY want a light car.. I'll pass on the new cars.. they are tanks

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