Re: 70 340 6 pack kickdown rod too short
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Confirm that the kickdown lever at the trans is attached and moving correctly. Looks to be
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Re: 70 340 6 pack kickdown rod too short
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I'm not sure where to go from here.
I believe I have the correct parts.
Everything appears to be adjusted correctly.
but NO KICK-DOWN
All shift points are within spec under light throttle.
Under full throttle at low speed no kick-down.
Start in 1 and floor it slap stick moves to 2nd by itself prematurely. Looking at the underside everything looks right. I'm perplexed.
I'm in the DFW TX area.
If anyone knows of someone who can help sort out these issues, please let me know.
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Re: 70 340 6 pack kickdown rod too short
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The shifter is moving by itself? You have broken motor or trans mounts.
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Re: 70 340 6 pack kickdown rod too short
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The shifter is moving by itself? You have broken motor or trans mounts. How do I verify/where do they usually break?
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Re: 70 340 6 pack kickdown rod too short
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Next steps are At WOT disconnect the linkage at the transmission and verify the arm can't move any more. If it can then the linkage is getting bound up or is hitting the body If it can't you either have a transmission issue or a manual valve body. Also if the slap stick is moving by itself that's an issue like he said
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Re: 70 340 6 pack kickdown rod too short
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Re: 70 340 6 pack kickdown rod too short
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Does anybody reproduce the AAR/T/A rod?
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Re: 70 340 6 pack kickdown rod too short
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Does anybody reproduce the AAR/T/A rod? Yes and they are $$$. Year One, Herbs, aa and a etc. $350+
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Re: 70 340 6 pack kickdown rod too short
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Take off your one piece rod and compare it with that one NOS Rod Picture posted here if you want
The $350 reproduction kit is for everything , and if your one piece rod is the correct one installed compared to that NOS piece , its time to look at other things like your internal valve body
Next
While your under there by the transmission
Take the throttle lever on your transmission and move it backwards within its full travel with your hand
You should feel some resistance as you move it rearward , probably around halfway of its travel , from the internal spring within the valve body and see how it feels
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Re: 70 340 6 pack kickdown rod too short
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We are still waiting for you to tell us what the kick down lever on the transmission feels like.
The rod you have looks like the NOS and if anything it might be too long by a 1/2" - so I don't think it is your issue
You also have not answered the question of if your slap stick is moving on it's own from 1 to 2
I must have missed it. Feels like how? It does move by itself from 1-2.
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Re: 70 340 6 pack kickdown rod too short
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Put the car up on stands and use a jack under the tailshaft and jack it up to see if the trans mount separates, then do thd same on each side of yhe engine. If it's shifting by itself you almost have to have broken mounts or bolts missing.
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Re: 70 340 6 pack kickdown rod too short
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Put the car up on stands and use a jack under the tailshaft and jack it up to see if the trans mount separates, then do thd same on each side of yhe engine. If it's shifting by itself you almost have to have broken mounts or bolts missing. Exactly! If this is happening all the geometry goes out the window
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Re: 70 340 6 pack kickdown rod too short
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The rod he pulled off is not the same as that NOS one in that picture unless
Unless my eyes are deceiving me , it looks to Bee almost an inch short , and then look at the 22" mark on his where the bend starts compared to the same 22" mark on the NOS 3577529 it stays straight thru 23 1/2" then the bend starts
Anyways
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Re: 70 340 6 pack kickdown rod too short
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Here’s some closeups showings overall length
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Re: 70 340 6 pack kickdown rod too short
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Also looks like the NOS rod is linear and flat where mine is twisted and bent upward from laying flat. Since it’s all about geometry I can’t help but think all the bends and twists in mine have a negative impact on performance. The one I have is short but not by 2 inches mentioned previously. More like half an inch, but I wonder about the bends and linear movement. Anyone know where I can get a new NOS one like the blue one?
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