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Need some help from the Rustoleum users.
I have used the Rustoleum Professional series of paint in doing my fiber glass dune buggy body. I have two coats of paint on with good coverage. Two days between coats for ample drying time. It may be 4 or more days before I do my 3rd coat.
Question I have is in regards to hardness. With my finger nail, I can mar the surface of the paint. Not a deep scratch or even a shallow scratch, but a line in the paint where the surface gloss is marred.
Will the final sanding and polish out of the paint remedy this marring? Will I be able to mar the finish after the polishing process?
The quality of the paint finish is fine for the buggy but I want a finish that will not scratch or mar and right now, I don't think I can achieve that. I was hoping I wouldn't have to do the final finsh sanding and polishing.
Any sugestions.
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Bob, what gun are you using and how about overspray when you did the cab?
You thinned per mfg. intructions?
It is a cheap-o Vaper HVLP gun ( about $55 ) that I found at some online discount tool place. It was the cheapest gun I could find that came with a regulator on the base of it. Overspray is not bad, I am painting in the yard and laying it on with a fine mist. I am thinning the paint almost as thin as for rolling, using low odor mineral spirits.Still get a little orange peel, but it sands down easily with 1000 grit wet.
I did find out one of the bad things about Rustoleum: It doesent dry when painted on bare seam sealer ( the cheap kind for a caulking gun )
Bob
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I have read about half the pages on this thread with great interest.
I bought a can of black Rustoleum Professional the other day and it says on the label to thin with Acetone. I seem to recall something about not using acetone as it will dry too fast. I thought I also read the Professional was preferred over the "regular" Rustoleum.
Some guidance please.
Bob
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09/18/06 07:45 AM
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Marq:
Did I understand correctly that you painted the underside of the hood with Brightside? Can that paint take the heat of the engine compartment? Thanks in advance for your advice.
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I have read about half the pages on this thread with great interest.
I bought a can of black Rustoleum Professional the other day and it says on the label to thin with Acetone. I seem to recall something about not using acetone as it will dry too fast. I thought I also read the Professional was preferred over the "regular" Rustoleum.
Some guidance please.
Bob
goodluck with the black, i chose white for its ability to hide imperfections and im still getting a bit of the peel, might be worse with black (originally was going to do black, but chose white even though it requires a 100% color change from the original black)..
mineral spirits is the reccomended thinner of choice, I can't recall why acetone wasn't reccomended, but I can vouch for mineral spirits ability to thin and dry fairly fast.
the professional I believe boasts quicker cure times than the original stops rust.
just finished 3rd coat on my car, have 99.9% coverage (just some dark spots here and there). looks incredible, the roof already has a satisfactory amount of shine from 3 feet away. everything glistens but upon examining my own reflection i see the old 'peel. No big deal though, my car already looks 500% better than it did, and I can always buff out the orange peel. Issue is, I'm getting lazy and tired and my extended weekend has come to an end with only 3 coats applied to the car..
I wet sanded this morning. It sucked. I didn't use a sanding block and got a bunch of highs and lows. Miraculously, the coat I just applied saved my tail as it leveled itself. After I apply the fourth coat, hopefully wednesday, I'll sand that evening and finish up friday and saturday with 5th and 6th coats. I really wish I could call it quits after 100% coverage but I know I'd burn through the paint with sandpaper, as I did a bit this morning.
Best of luck, Bob.
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read my post... the last page. Acetone comes out better but should only be sprayed.
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About what ratio did you use with acetone thinner? I recently got a compressor, and spray gun. Was thinkin about just using a spray on since it seems quite a bit faster.
Also, how many coats did you do to get full coverage?
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Hello everyone, First of all, A BIG THANK YOU to 69Charger for sharing his idea  I had been following the thread for several weeks and 2 weeks ago I decided to give it a shot and paint my 1993 Ford Probe GT which had awfully faded and oxidated original paint, even some rust. I did 2 coats, wetsanded 600 grit, 2 coats, wetsand 600 and coat #5 which ended up being the last. I was going to do 6 but I did a good job on #5 and didn't want to ruin it.  I don't plan on doing any polishing. The 5th coat is nice, flat and shiny with minimal orange peel. Will the shine last without doing the polishing and buffing? Here are a few pics (after 5 coats):   And here is one pic after 4 coats (in the rain):  The rear hatch was rusty so I Bondo'd the heck out of it...4th coat fully covered the Bondo. I only used 1 1/2 quarts of Sunrise Red Rustoleum and about 3/4 of a 1qt mineral spirits can. 
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ProbeGT Good looking job. Since you have not polished your last coat, I need to ask a question. Can you take your finger nail and mark the shine or gloss on the paint? That is, leave a small mark in the glossy surface, not a scratch into the paint but a blemish on the surface. I don't want to polish my last coat either, but all my test pieces will marr when I use a finger nail to test the surface. I need to know if the polish job is needed to get a hard surface that will not marr the surface shine. I guess if you get any responses to your question, it will help me also. My paint job is on a fiber glass dune buggy body. With the getting in and out of the buggy and running around in the woods, a shiney paint job will not last long with the the present paint job I have on it now.  Thanks. Ed
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Did I understand correctly that you painted the underside of the hood with Brightside? Can that paint take the heat of the engine compartment? Thanks in advance for your advice.
No... the underside of the hood was painted with a spray bomb of Tremclad Red. I did this mostly out of convenience because the hood was still on the car... hence I didn't want to try to roll paint upside 
And yes... the Tremclad / Rustoleum spray can take the head under the hood. I don't know if I would use it directly on the engine block or on the headers though... But they do make a 'High Heat' version of the Tremclad/Rustoleum... although I think it has a very limited color range... flat black, high gloss black.. flat gray.. and that is about all I can remember seeing at our Home Depot...
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Can Marq or anyone who has used brightside comment on the hardness? I was hoping my rustoleum would be 'rock hard' by now, but I can still put an indentation in it by slicing it with my fingernail. I don't know how this will affect polishability (I guess it would?) but I don't like the fact that it isn't 'rock hard' yet, after 2 months or so..
At this time ... approx 40 days since the job was done... the paint is rock hard. In fact it was pretty well rock hard one week after the final coat was applied. I believe at this point if I caught a stone on the nose of the car it would probably chip like any hardened enamel paint job. But so far no chips and I have had the car running at 100 mph ( although I am in Canada, my car is from the US and with a US speedometer )... and no chips from the other traffic in front of me.
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quote" I don't know why the Duplicolor primer/sealer would present any problem with any of the paint mixtures. When you wiped the body down with mineral spirit to clean all the dust and crap off the body prior to painting... did you give the primer/sealer sufficient time to evaporate whatever mineral spirit it might have absorbed ?" I went uot to the car yesterday and decided to clean the tree poop off I got out the pressure washer and peeled the new Royal Blue right off the hood!!   the paint was real hard, could not scratch it at all!! But when I was primering I ran out of rusto primer and ran down to the autoz and grabed a can of duplicolor primer sealer to finish. On that side every bit of paint is comming off  there's primer on the car and on the back of the paint that came off! I'll have to sand it all down and paint again. This time I will only use the rusto primer. The lesson here is pick one prodct and STICK TO IT!!  #2 it's only $8.00 a quart no big deal 
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Gotta love the Greater Canadian Cr*p Hawk. What a PITA they are.
It's been about a month - six weeks since I finished my truck, and I've had it out to two or three coin spray washes, one just a week after I finished. I haven't had any peels or other problems from the high pressure, and I get real up close and personal with tree sap and bird droppings. About an inch away until the glob gives up and vanishes.
Still have as good a shine as I did after the final polish, as well.
I want to die like my Grampa, peacefully, in his sleep. Not screaming in terror like his passengers.
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