Re: Nodular 8.75 case , how much stronger
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Than a production 489 housing Anybody using a nodular 8.75 rear with a brake? I have done this, as my Dart got quicker the parts attrition got worse. 60' 1.39/1.40 normally now, 3375lbs Nod 489 case, 35 spline, magic pink goo shock proof oil, back braced. I run a 4.30 gear which is probably the worst but it is what the car wants. I race often it got down to 2 ring and pinions a year, Richmond, Motive, Yukon had them all. I did a 9" and am very happy with it. You will be money ahead in the long run to just upgrade to a tow truck rear or a 9" I had to type this out 3 times to remove the cutting sarcasm, cuss words, and bad attitude I have on this subject
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Re: Nodular 8.75 case , how much stronger
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Than a production 489 housing Anybody using a nodular 8.75 rear with a brake? I have done this, as my Dart got quicker the parts attrition got worse. 60' 1.39/1.40 normally now, 3375lbs Nod 489 case, 35 spline, magic pink goo shock proof oil, back braced. I run a 4.30 gear which is probably the worst but it is what the car wants. I race often it got down to 2 ring and pinions a year, Richmond, Motive, Yukon had them all. I did a 9" and am very happy with it. You will be money ahead in the long run to just upgrade to a tow truck rear or a 9" Thanks. That settles it
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Re: Nodular 8.75 case , how much stronger
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The weak point in the 8 3/4 is the bearing caps. "You can brace it like a tank and it will NOT fix the inherent weakness of the 8.75. Torque pushes the ring gear away from the pinion when the case flexes. You CAN'T fix that. They break caps because all the debris from the shelled teeth gets in there and it pushes the cap off. So you will spend a lot of time and money trying to fix a problem you can't fix and it will eventually break anyway." Monte Smith
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Re: Nodular 8.75 case , how much stronger
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Than a production 489 housing Anybody using a nodular 8.75 rear with a brake? I have done this, as my Dart got quicker the parts attrition got worse. 60' 1.39/1.40 normally now, 3375lbs Nod 489 case, 35 spline, magic pink goo shock proof oil, back braced. I run a 4.30 gear which is probably the worst but it is what the car wants. I race often it got down to 2 ring and pinions a year, Richmond, Motive, Yukon had them all. I did a 9" and am very happy with it. You will be money ahead in the long run to just upgrade to a tow truck rear or a 9" I had to type this out 3 times to remove the cutting sarcasm, cuss words, and bad attitude I have on this subject . I'm going to have to say it was being built wrong for you to have broken that much stuff in a 10 second car.. guys like Thumper have been using the same one for 17 years.. that being said there is no substitute for 9inchs
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Re: Nodular 8.75 case , how much stronger
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[/quote]. I'm going to have to say it was being built wrong for you to have broken that much stuff in a 10 second car.. guys like Thumper have been using the same one for 17 years.. that being said there is no substitute for 9inchs [/quote Ha ha You sir are still a A..hole (and a friend)
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Re: Nodular 8.75 case , how much stronger
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10/21/18 11:22 PM
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Ok I will say it, Do not waste more money on an 8 3/4, PERIOD Been driving racing my 9-second Dart forever and JUST replaced the "stock" pumpkin 2+ years ago that had stock caps bolts etc. Too many wives tales but then again, some people are puttin them in the wrong application so you need to know where the cut off point is........... The cut off point in mine was reached last weekend. Shelled teeth off the ring gear even with all the band-aids, but that's with a car that weighs 3800+ I'll be purchasing a Dana 60 next month.
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Re: Nodular 8.75 case , how much stronger
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Been running the Dr Diff unit for 2+ years and it is awesome imo and a bit heavier but beefier with forged caps and stout adjusters.........of course my stock unit lasted 16+ years........... Come on Dom, we all know you go to the track for a couple passes like once every 2 years. Beating on it on the street will never duplicate the traction/stress it will see at the track. Lots of weak parts can live a long life w/ no traction.
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Re: Nodular 8.75 case , how much stronger
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Been running the Dr Diff unit for 2+ years and it is awesome imo and a bit heavier but beefier with forged caps and stout adjusters.........of course my stock unit lasted 16+ years........... Come on Dom, we all know you go to the track for a couple passes like once every 2 years. Beating on it on the street will never duplicate the traction/stress it will see at the track. Lots of weak parts can live a long life w/ no traction. Thank you!
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Re: Nodular 8.75 case , how much stronger
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I ran a 8 3/4 and still do in the race car.. the car is light but it blew the ring and I changed to the alum center.. its had a back brace all along.. when I built the hot rod I put a 9" in it with a back brace and DRs.. had slicks in the race car and a brake with 1.19 60'.. both are still running strong
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Re: Nodular 8.75 case , how much stronger
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Been running the Dr Diff unit for 2+ years and it is awesome imo and a bit heavier but beefier with forged caps and stout adjusters.........of course my stock unit lasted 16+ years........... Come on Dom, we all know you go to the track for a couple passes like once every 2 years. Beating on it on the street will never duplicate the traction/stress it will see at the track. Lots of weak parts can live a long life w/ no traction. Thank you! Your welcome and I will post a pic of my fat ass time slip book then you can tell me how I've only raced a couple times a year..........Don't be hatin on my quick ass n/a street car.........
72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....
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Re: Nodular 8.75 case , how much stronger
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I still run the 742 8-3/4” that came with my car from the factory. After breaking a couple of sure-grip differentials, I now run a spool, along with a steel cap on the driver side, 35-spline axles, and my housing has a brace stitched onto it. My car doesn’t make power like most on this board, but I do throw more weight at mine than most, as my car crosses the scales at a solid 3870 these days. It 60’s in 1.53,the footbraking.
I know a guy here locally that runs a low10-second 67 GTX on a trans brake. He still runs an 8-3/4”. My belief is that 8-3/4’s have their place. A 9-second B-body may not be that place.
For all those that call the modifications “band-aids”; the 9” units that most run are not stock Ford units, they’re full of aftermarket stuff also. For that matter, most Dana’s in this conversations are likely S60’s outfitted with Spools, aluminum covers, and aftermarket axles.
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Re: Nodular 8.75 case , how much stronger
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For all those that call the modifications “band-aids”; the 9” units that most run are not stock Ford units, they’re full of aftermarket stuff also.: For that matter, most Dana’s in this conversations are likely S60’s outfitted with Spools, aluminum covers, and aftermarket axles. I agree: No stock Ford parts at all I was told by Joe Reath back in the early 1970 that their funny car, Dunn and Reath, where the test mule for the Chrisman family helping develop the Ford nine inch for drag racing. He said they where into it back then for around $2300.00 and still would put the Dana 60 back in the car to go to certain high altitude low traction tracks like in Salt Lake so they didn't have to change third members at the races due to carnage at those tracks As far as Dana 60 used for drag racing in some cars I normally will use a junk yard damaged Dana 60 core due to the lower price and I'm going to have them cut down and narrowed to fit and use after market spools and axles The truck rear ends set up properly will push by hand in the car so much easier than any 9 inch Ford equip car I have help push at the races or any where else, same thing on drag cars with 8 3/4 rear ends in them when it comes to pushing them by hand
Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)
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