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Re: Drag racing rules [Re: Blucuda413] #2569757
10/26/18 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted By Blucuda413
I haven't raced in the past 2 years so I was unaware of the TruStart implementation. It really warms my heart because I had an extended correspondence with NHRA on this subject in the 90's. I even went as far as having a simulation developed that showed over 1,000,000 runs that the impact was to the slower car. NHRA would not acknowledge our simulation results and their basis for keeping the first redlight rule was that they were not seeing the same result in actual National and Divisional test results. Glad somebody finally got smart!!!!


The NHRA didn't get smart, just some local tracks and/or divisions(?). Don't hold your breath waiting for the NHRA to do the right thing.

Re: Drag racing rules [Re: @#$%&*!] #2569773
10/26/18 03:08 PM
10/26/18 03:08 PM
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Norwalk is the only track I race at that uses tru-start.


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Re: Drag racing rules [Re: bigdad] #2569788
10/26/18 03:43 PM
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Tru-start has nothing to do with running quicker than your predicted time after an opponent loses by redlighting, and then being declared a loser. That's some BS rule that some track official made up and goes against all normal procedures that have been in place at every drag race. It's BS. I would have told them so, and not gone back. How could you dial 6.60 if 6.599 gets you thrown out regardless?

NHRA doesn't run Tru-start because they don't run Tru-start. Simple as that. Bi#ch about NHRA all you like, this kind of stupid stuff doesn't happen at their events. They are typically consistent in the way they run their shows, regardless where you go. Typically.


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Re: Drag racing rules [Re: bigdad] #2569850
10/26/18 05:41 PM
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Kyle Seipel and Peter Biondo started the "True Start" program and are using True Start at the big $$$$$ bracket races they run. Other tracks like Norwalk are starting to use it.

The racer that got screwed by running too quick after opponent red lighted should have parked his car on the starting line and waited till they could provide a written rule showing breaking out vs opponent red light is a loser.

Re: Drag racing rules [Re: Al_Alguire] #2570890
10/29/18 10:58 AM
10/29/18 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted By Al_Alguire
You got hosed, unless you hit a barrier or cone along the way smile The red light takes precedent over all but those situations. Red lights area free time shot for you. Only way you can not get the win is hit a cone, cross the center line, or hit a barrier PERIOD. ESPECIALLY at an NHRA sanctioned track

Truestart has ZERO to do with this situation. It is only in play when both go red and the worst red gets the loss. Takes the advantage of being the faster car automatically winning if the slower cars goes red. Great addition to the sport IMO, much more level playing field. After all rule is first or worst. Slower car goes .005- red so he is first, faster car goes .010- red, he has the WORST of the two lights and should be the one who is done. The only instance where the first or worst rule doesn't mean squat is red lights with NO trustart




EXACTLY...you got hosed.


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Re: Drag racing rules [Re: Eric] #2570909
10/29/18 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted By Eric
Originally Posted By Al_Alguire
You got hosed, unless you hit a barrier or cone along the way smile The red light takes precedent over all but those situations. Red lights area free time shot for you. Only way you can not get the win is hit a cone, cross the center line, or hit a barrier PERIOD. ESPECIALLY at an NHRA sanctioned track

Truestart has ZERO to do with this situation. It is only in play when both go red and the worst red gets the loss. Takes the advantage of being the faster car automatically winning if the slower cars goes red. Great addition to the sport IMO, much more level playing field. After all rule is first or worst. Slower car goes .005- red so he is first, faster car goes .010- red, he has the WORST of the two lights and should be the one who is done. The only instance where the first or worst rule doesn't mean squat is red lights with NO trustart




EXACTLY...you got hosed.


Seen stuff like this happen lots of times at Podunk drag strips..... smile


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