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Re: What are the rules for nostalgia super stock [Re: SCATPACK 1] #2533202
08/08/18 11:20 AM
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If you live in NE Ohio - build to NMCA there are quite a few events within a couple hours drive - NSS is a blast as the group of racers are top notch and the challenge of running an index makes it interesting. I have run brackets, Box –No-box,10.90, 9.90 index and the I still think NSS is the most fun I have had.

Re: What are the rules for nostalgia super stock [Re: SCATPACK 1] #2533219
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I been reacing NSS since it started, in 1989, I ran the first race in St. Louis and sat at the table when the rules were written. The first NSS group was actually a match racing orginization. The index racing came later when the group started going to Good Guys, NMCA, and similar events. The orginal idea was to keep the class the way super stock was in the days before prostock, orginally it was 1966 and older full body cars, with dual fours, and stock frame rails. NMCA opened up the class to several body styles to gain car count. And Mopar I guess has the most cost effective combination, so they are the most numerous at all the events I attend. Lot of good racers in NSS, even seeing some younger guys get into the class. Everybody gets along and it is great fun.

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Re: What are the rules for nostalgia super stock [Re: polyspheric] #2533231
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Originally Posted By polyspheric
"no electronics": much more expensive, carefully hidden

Ohhh I shouldn't have said that. My bad.

Bxxx Sxxx. Come and take a look. You wouldnt be the 1st to make an inspection. Yes it is possible to average lights better than .030 and be less than .01 off index without any electronics.
Doug

Re: What are the rules for nostalgia super stock [Re: dvw] #2533292
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Originally Posted By dvw
Originally Posted By polyspheric
"no electronics": much more expensive, carefully hidden

Ohhh I shouldn't have said that. My bad.

Bxxx Sxxx. Come and take a look. You wouldnt be the 1st to make an inspection. Yes it is possible to average lights better than .030 and be less than .01 off index without any electronics.
Doug


Actually those light averages and being within .01 were somewhat common for the better racers in the past in this area (DIV 1).....till everyone started taking the easy way and became "computer racers". didn't really even the playing field much either....the same good racers still won, just everyone spent more money.


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Re: What are the rules for nostalgia super stock [Re: SCATPACK 1] #2533499
08/08/18 10:06 PM
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Most races that have a NSS class say whose rules they use..NMCA, 422, Victory,etc. Check the rules and if your car fits go race. Pretty simple, I think every series has a website detailing their rules.

Index racing is easy, come on in the waters warm......

Re: What are the rules for nostalgia super stock [Re: nss guy] #2533563
08/09/18 12:39 AM
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Ok, I checked the websites of most of the tracks I'd concider going to. All nmca rules. Not going far enough east to play by their rules. Not going far enough west for victory series. How does it work at Quaker when they run stock, superstock and nss all together? Do they run indexes or dial in?

I don't have a car that fits so if I am going to do this I'll be looking to buy something. By by Barracuda. Hmm, I could sell my wife's car and keep the cuda. She hasn't driven hers in 3 years anyway. Or sell both and buy a nicer nss.


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Re: What are the rules for nostalgia super stock [Re: SCATPACK 1] #2533605
08/09/18 07:15 AM
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The Buckeye and GLSSA series are dial-in for Stock, S/S, and N/SS
Doug

Re: What are the rules for nostalgia super stock [Re: SCATPACK 1] #2533864
08/09/18 05:48 PM
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This club UNSS just started racing at Cecil County in Md this year. They usually have one race per month and they are very easy on the rules. I see 68/69 Roadrunners , Camaro's and they said my son can run his 72 Dart in the class also. We cloned it to look like a 70 Swinger 340 but they told me he can run It in their race. I have run in a few NSS races and I run a single 850 DP and I ran in a 422 race and in an NSS race put on by Dave Collette. I can understand some of the rules but the ones who say you have to run two carbs like was stock on Max Wedges kinda make me laugh when they say the Indy crossram is ok because it don't even look like a crossram as the carbs look inline or may be offset about 1/8" and it sure don't look no more like a crossram then my single carb intake does. And some think if the car has the right look they let you run any intake/carb combo you like. But as many have said look into the clubs in your area and make sure you car will fit the rules. Ron

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Re: What are the rules for nostalgia super stock [Re: 383man] #2533921
08/09/18 08:05 PM
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Again the rules are the rules. No one goes to NHRA and asks if they'll allow Dominators in S/S , or trans brakes in Stock . Yes the carbs are inlne. NHRA allows any intake (pretty much) in S/S. But you have to run the factory style carb(s). This is the same deal. But look at the inside. What does that look like to you? NMCA allows single AFB/AVS style carbs. NMCA does have a class for other cars of this type. It's Nostalgia Muscle Car. Again no Dominators. This class requires rear suspension to retain the factory design. It's also on .25 index, foot brake, no electronics. I'm always amazed at how many people that don't race the class/series complain about the rules. It's real easy. A, build a car that fits the rules. B, don't race the class.
Doug

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Re: What are the rules for nostalgia super stock [Re: SCATPACK 1] #2534061
08/10/18 04:54 AM
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Doug if you are referring to my comment about the Indy crossram I am by no means knocking it. I just used it as one of the things most NSS clubs let you run that don't look like the factory intake. Heck most of the NSS cars don't run an intake that looks like the original factory intake. I am by no means knocking the Indy crossram as I know most serious NSS racers use it that run the Mopar wedge eng and its great because it makes more power then the 60 year old crossram. I am just saying how many clubs don't push the rules to the limit. Honestly to me its more important for the outside of the car to have the NSS look then the eng because that's what everyone see when you go down the track. Believe me I am not knocking the Indy crossram or anyone who use it I just used it as one thing that is legal but don't look like the original factory intake. I did not mean to get anyone fired up about it. Ron

Re: What are the rules for nostalgia super stock [Re: SCATPACK 1] #2534068
08/10/18 07:19 AM
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No offense taken. It's a great class. We're always ready for more competition. I'd invite anyone to try it. Like Jamie said, jump on in.
Doug

Re: What are the rules for nostalgia super stock [Re: JERICOGTX] #2534570
08/11/18 01:43 PM
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As for Victory, wasn't much of a fan when they told a buddy he couldn't be running other classes other then the Victory deal, as it would give him a unfair advantage. If you tow 500+ miles, and your car fits into multiple classes for the weekend, you should be able to race whatever you want.[/quote]


It wasn't because it was unfair, although that may have been the reason given at the time.
Prior to that rule, the race was held up two different races by cars racing in other classes, that couldn't get to the staging lanes to pair up on time.

This delayed things/schedule, and hence the rule.

In Victory, you pair up in the pits, and once called (and only once) you get to the lanes within minutes. Its courtesy for the track and participants.

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