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Re: Show me a 500hp "default" stock stroke 340/360 recipie [Re: Streetwize] #368618
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Quick, what's your .450 and .600 lift numbers look like? You've got enough flow at .700 to make ~625 my my "rule of thumb" but guessing you've got in the ballpark of 565 right there...or about as much as I'd want to throw at a cast crank anyway!!

That sounds like one BadAzz Munchkin motor!!!

S/St3040, That is VERY IMPRESSIVE power at a very low RPM from a short stroke motor, I know you're having to work the average 2500-6500 HP/Torque for the EM format. Like I said earlier with 340's the temptation is too easy for motors that love to rev to just throw the flow and cam to them and let the crank wind up tight to make HP.....so your combo is 'mucho impressivo'....I thinking you had some killer work (epoxy maybe?) in that Victor intake to bring the torque in early and use the HP up by 6500, I would think the smallish cam can only get you so much grunt in the middle without the intake pitching in.... That was the Highest Average per cube contest, wasn't it?




don't remember off hand but they were good, I shift it at 6500 and may even lower it more.

Re: Show me a 500hp "default" stock stroke 340/360 recipie [Re: FlyFish] #368619
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here's my combo, what do you think it makes?
360 .030 over
probe light weight flat tops, down in the hole a few.
eagle rods.
stock stroke stock crank
comp 308R street roller, [Email]262@.050/[/Email] 575lift
1.6 rockers
11.5:1 cr
indy 360-1s fully ported by Dwayne, 317+ at 700 with good low to mid numbers
indy intake/ 1050 dominator

I run it on a 50/50 mix could be street driven anywhere.




What kind of times do you wring out of it?




don't know yet, never really had a chance to run it hard when I had it in my sons chally. but it ran 11.20 @ 121 running on 2 bbls of the carb, had the back two off. this was a stock suspension street chally 3500#s. I'll do a whats it gonna run in a week or two when I finish the new challenger. but it's a total different combo. the motor is the same but changed a lot of other stuff.

Re: Show me a 500hp "default" stock stroke 340/360 recipie [Re: Streetwize] #368620
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That was the Highest Average per cube contest, wasn't it?





NO, or it would have won. The contest is based on average per cube.

The heads and intake had epoxy.

Re: Show me a 500hp "default" stock stroke 340/360 recipie [Re: Streetwize] #368621
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The research I did about building a 500hp small block lead me to realize building a stock stroke 440 was a much better option in a 3700# roadrunner. The default 500hp big block is more streetable plus the additional torque make it a no brainer.

Re: Show me a 500hp "default" stock stroke 340/360 recipie [Re: Streetwize] #368622
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My combo is 340 factory bottom end ported W2's solid roller cam, 252 dur. @.050, 1050 dominator, runs 10.60's, could be streetable with exhaust figure around 550 hp

Re: Show me a 500hp "default" stock stroke 340/360 recipie [Re: BLONDE BARRACUDA] #368623
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I just completed assembling a stock stroke 360 .020 with KB107, has eddy magnum heads with the bowls blends and minor cleanup in the ports. Camshaft is a Engle 253/253 @.050 .613 lift with 1.6 rockers, M1 Magnum Single Plane Intake, 750 Holly DP. Compression is calculated to be 11.2 to 1. Quench is .043. Using stock rods that have the beams polished and arp wave lock bolts.

I think it going to be close to the 500 hp figure.

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71 Demon 360 10.666 @122.41 (01-29-17 @ Las Vegas)
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Re: Show me a 500hp "default" stock stroke 340/360 recipie [Re: Streetwize] #368624
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Emarine, that sounds like it would be right around 500, My approach is pretty close to that with my 341" except I've got bowl ported/pinch relieved E-heads, Comp HR 236/242 @.50 .520/.540 on 112 in at 107 (need to spread the torque for obvious reasons) aluminum rods and 10.2:1, I'm looking for ~460 @ maybe 6300 or so, by my calcs that should be pretty close...whatcha think?


You could cam up some 8 to 10* go solid and turn it to 7k and be close to 500 if not more

Re: Show me a 500hp "default" stock stroke 340/360 recipie [Re: emarine01] #368625
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Yeah but 500HP and 7000+ in this thing.....

It was about hiking the wheels with a bone stock 318 with a 4 barrel & Headers!!

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Re: Show me a 500hp "default" stock stroke 340/360 recipie [Re: Streetwize] #368626
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Yeah but 500HP and 7000+ in this thing.....

It was about hiking the wheels with a bone stock 318 with a 4 barrel & Headers!!


My toyota is only a tad longer and 600+, granted we only go 200ft but its fun

Re: Show me a 500hp "default" stock stroke 340/360 recipie [Re: emarine01] #368627
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I have a 360 30 over KB pistions 5 out of the hole, around 11.5-1, ported J heads 248-252 @ 50 and 591-610 on the lift, victor 340 intake, TTI headers, and i believe it will make over 500, and its going in a light early A body


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Re: Show me a 500hp "default" stock stroke 340/360 recipie [Re: 65signet] #368628
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500 HP will put a 3200 lb. car less than 10.50 @ almost 127 MPH.

3000 lbs.......about 10.20 @ over 129 MPH.

2800 lbs.......9.90s @ over 132 MPH.

Just some perspective.

Re: Show me a 500hp "default" stock stroke 340/360 recipie [Re: S/ST 3040] #368629
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500 HP will put a 3200 lb. car less than 10.50 @ almost 127 MPH.

3000 lbs.......about 10.20 @ over 129 MPH.

2800 lbs.......9.90s @ over 132 MPH.

Just some perspective.


Thats rear wheel figures and a bit generous at that.

Re: Show me a 500hp "default" stock stroke 340/360 recipie [Re: S/ST 3040] #368630
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500 HP will put a 3200 lb. car less than 10.50 @ almost 127 MPH.

3000 lbs.......about 10.20 @ over 129 MPH.

2800 lbs.......9.90s @ over 132 MPH.

Just some perspective.




I think most are thinking 500 hp at the crank...not RWHP


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Re: Show me a 500hp "default" stock stroke 340/360 recipie [Re: 70AARcuda] #368631
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i figured my crank and cam would have made 500 with a .030 over 340 block, there's just something fun about whomping some BB chevie's butt with a little 318


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Re: Show me a 500hp "default" stock stroke 340/360 recipie [Re: Streetwize] #368632
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Small blocks get no love

Being mainly a big block guy I sympathize....I'll bet a similar "B" motor thread would probably be 3 pages by now




Well, I got no suggestions.

But, I'll bump this for your post count on the thead, and show some LA motors some love.

I don't think I'd want a lot of torque in a Dihatsu Rocky; to heck with worrying about the rear bumper - I'd be worried about landing on the roof!

Spin 'er to the moon, 'Wize - just keep her in one piece!

-Bill


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Re: Show me a 500hp "default" stock stroke 340/360 recipie [Re: Streetwize] #368633
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i figured my crank and cam would have made 500 with a .030 over 340 block, there's just something fun about whomping some BB chevie's butt with a little 318


But beware of 632 chebbies in vegas

Re: Show me a 500hp "default" stock stroke 340/360 recipie [Re: emarine01] #368634
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Ya gotta watch that kinda stuff. Waaay back when I was a high schooler, I recall a whompin' fast '66 Biscayne that had a "396" and column shifted TH400. Under the hood, only the headers looked non-stock. Stock valve covers, Edelbrock C-454 was painted orange, juice cam, big Holley, and some dual inlet Chevy air cleaner that was probably off of a 454 Chevelle- dual non-snorkle inlets similar to 1970 340, but with a lid that was the same dia. as the air filter element. It had Corvette rallye wheels with no trim rings, and L70-15 tires all around. The only hint as to the real nature of the beast was the spacers between the intake and the (orange painted) aluminum heads. With 3.42 gears, this thing would give up a big hole shot, and then go honkin' past about anything in high gear. Apparently was 550 cubes in a tall deck block. I personally know of a 420+ inch small block that even has had the W-2 logo massaged off of the old castings and everything including the intake is painted to look stock save for the ceramic coated headers. Probably good for low tens, given the rest of the build.

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500 HP will put a 3200 lb. car less than 10.50 @ almost 127 MPH.

3000 lbs.......about 10.20 @ over 129 MPH.

2800 lbs.......9.90s @ over 132 MPH.

Just some perspective.




I believe my car weight is 2800 but i don't think there is no way i am running 9.90, if i can run 10.60 i would be more than happy.


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Carfarmer....

Yeah, I've been engineering the combo to try to take away as much low end torque (Bigger carb, single plane insead of an RPM Air gap and 112 lobe centers) as I can. I want to try to keep the "shiney side up" if at all possible

This mini stroker (essentially a 318 bore 360-ish stroke) should be a good combination for bracket racing in a short light combo, to keep from flipping I'm starting out with 4.56 gears 9thanks B1Frank!) and a deep gear 998 auto with a 3200-ish stall but with a much smaller 26" x 9.5" Hoosier QTP instead of the 29 x 11.5" I was running. I'm doing 1/8th mile so I'll have to go to the taller tire (or less gear) to run the 1/4 once I get her all sorted out.

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WIZE

World's Quickest Diahatsu Rocky (??) 414" Stroker Small block Mopar Powered. 10.84 @ 123...and gettin' quicker!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mWzLma3YGI

In Car:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjXcf95e6v0
Re: Show me a 500hp "default" stock stroke 340/360 recipie [Re: Streetwize] #368637
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4.10 gear
3000 lb SS springs -7 pinoin angle
28x9 slick
904 trans standard gear set
T/A 4,400 8" converter
360
3.58 stoke
rods eagle h-beam
4.030 wiseco flat tops 0 deck
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cam mp .557
victor jr intake 1" open spacer
home built 750 holley alcohol carb
1-3/4 x 1-7/8 x 3-1/2 headman headders


best 1/4 @ 6,800 ft of air 1.46 60' 10.68 @ 125
best 1/8th @ 300 ft of air 1.41 60' 6.61 @ 104

I am not sure what it made but probably over 500 the same setup in my stock stroke +.030 318 runs 11.0s to 10.90 @ 120 to 121

I know i had to be down on power with my home built carb cam choice and lack of port work a better chassis and a little more gear would wouls also help

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