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Re: Information Binder on Car [Re: NANKET] #2526112
07/23/18 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted By NANKET
I wanted to load a photo, but it isn't happening.


Email it to me if you want & I'll see what I can do.

If it is the car I think it is, it is a stunner.

Re: Information Binder on Car [Re: NANKET] #2526226
07/24/18 02:08 AM
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Originally Posted By NANKET
I wanted to load a photo, but it isn't happening.

Yes it's a cool color, it turns gold in the sun and then it looks great. Hard to impossible to duplicate the correct factory look of this paint in today's world.


My GTX is original paint and I have seen numerous cars repainted FK5 where it is way, way off. Usually it's base coat / clear coat and it's way to light.

Re: Information Binder on Car [Re: Morty426] #2526230
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top 3 GTX colors for '70 are:
#1 EB5
#2 FK5
#3 EF8

these 3 colors account for more than 1/3 of production

Re: Information Binder on Car [Re: Morty426] #2526512
07/24/18 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted By Morty426
My GTX is original paint and I have seen numerous cars repainted FK5 where it is way, way off. Usually it's base coat / clear coat and it's way to light.


You are so right, Morty. I remember the kid thought this snippet that the kid saved from the Graveyard Carz website back from last Novemeber about FK5 that she thought was interesting.

This was the snippet: "When tinting a color like Burnt Orange, different paint is used to try and match the exact color. To lighten the tint, either white or yellow is added, and to darken the tint, black is added. This is a very delicate process and it can be easy to ruin a batch of paint if too much pigment is added. After this process is done the paint is then thinned down for spraying."


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Re: Information Binder on Car [Re: GTXKARL] #2526518
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The kid's stuck on decoding the broadcast sheet. She's having some difficulty with the third line. More specifically the difficulty is with the steering column and steering wheel type box too. Any ideas on what the code 16 is? It's listed 16TT. She knows from a book that the TT is the color code for the wheel and that its Wood grain. No idea about the correct steering wheel type code, though.


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Re: Information Binder on Car [Re: GTXKARL] #2526637
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Originally Posted By GTXKARL
The kid's stuck on decoding the broadcast sheet. She's having some difficulty with the third line. More specifically the difficulty is with the steering column and steering wheel type box too. Any ideas on what the code 16 is? It's listed 16TT. She knows from a book that the TT is the color code for the wheel and that its Wood grain. No idea about the correct steering wheel type code, though.


16TT should be a wood grain steering wheel

08X9 would be the standard black wheel

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Thank you for the confirmation on the color code. smile

Also, do you have any idea what the number 16 in front of the TT means? Or does it just go along with the TT?


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Re: Information Binder on Car [Re: GTXKARL] #2526645
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Originally Posted By GTXKARL
Thank you for the confirmation on the color code. smile

Also, do you have any idea what the number 16 in front of the TT means? Or does it just go along with the TT?


I believe, and Dan can correct me if I am wrong, that the first two digits are wheel type and the last two are color.

08 - Standard Wheel
X9 - Black

16 - Wood Wheel
TT - Wood Color

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Okay, thanks. The kid has been using a Decoding Series manual book and it wasn't too explanatory. I am trying to help her. I am pretty sure some of the book is inaccurate.


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Re: Information Binder on Car [Re: GTXKARL] #2526667
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correct - the full part number for the woodgrain '70 b-body steering wheel is - 4016 FTT

I have a factory quart of FK5 lacquer - it is a great color drool

1970s FK5.jpg
Re: Information Binder on Car [Re: GTXKARL] #2526687
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Original paint X

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Re: Information Binder on Car [Re: NANKET] #2526693
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It still looks great! grin Not a day over forty.


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Re: Information Binder on Car [Re: GTXKARL] #2541996
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The research has been coming along well! The kid has been hitting some roadblocks with the buildsheet deciphering, but she's getting through it slowly.

Big thanks to Barry for the SIAC sheet it was really cool to see and to show to people in the binder at car shows.

Anyway, I was wondering does anyone know what happened to the records after the Chrysler Historical museum closed? Who might have them?


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Re: Information Binder on Car [Re: GTXKARL] #2542321
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Originally Posted By GTXKARL
The research has been coming along well! The kid has been hitting some roadblocks with the buildsheet deciphering, but she's getting through it slowly.

Big thanks to Barry for the SIAC sheet it was really cool to see and to show to people in the binder at car shows.

Anyway, I was wondering does anyone know what happened to the records after the Chrysler Historical museum closed? Who might have them?


There were no records at the Chrysler Historical Museum.

It's believed that most records were destroyed in the Chrysler building fire.

So what we have is a lot of guys trying to reconstruct the data from the forensic evidence.

Re: Information Binder on Car [Re: GTXKARL] #2542508
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Thanks, Chris! I was partially unsure. I heard there was a fire, but I also saw something online called Chrysler Historical Collection or something? That is why I was a 100% unsure.

https://maxwedge.com/research/cchist.php


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