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Re: Sneak peek pecker extension [Re: WHITEDART] #2501601
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You would think that if the beams can be positioned properly to stage with the tires. The ET beams would be positioned the same way. If I'm wrong, then I've learned something today. Glad I'm putting a spoiler on the front of my Cuda.


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Re: Sneak peek pecker extension [Re: dodger mope] #2501636
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Originally Posted By dodger mope
on a tour though the Boeing factory we where told one 747 they put 600 gallon of paint on the airplane,thats around 4000 lbs.when its being
painted the wheels are on scales!

If you will notice many of American Airlines planes are mostly polished not painted. The reason is weight.

Re: Sneak peek pecker extension [Re: sgcuda] #2501640
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SGcuda the top end beams are higher up.

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Re: Sneak peek pecker extension [Re: Just-a-dart] #2501718
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I have seen a few write up on this. Here is one

www.dragtimenews.com/BracketRacing101-ItsAllInTheTimingPt2.htm



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Re: Sneak peek pecker extension [Re: sgcuda] #2501793
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Originally Posted By sgcuda
So, basically, you are shortening the distance to trip the beams. Might make for a quicker et slip, but in reality, it isn't any faster. I'm building N/A because I need to prove to myself how good I am. I don't need any sort of drag race version of Viagra to help me.


Almost laughable for anyone who races heads up.

Re: Sneak peek pecker extension [Re: WHITEDART] #2501794
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Re: Sneak peek pecker extension [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #2501806
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I like it, any and every little thing helps. up

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Re: Sneak peek pecker extension [Re: Biginchmopar] #2501817
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I believe the finish line beams are roughly 6 in high you could see how this car would definitely have an advantage over the Dodge Dart

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Re: Sneak peek pecker extension [Re: WHITEDART] #2501825
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I believe that most tracks staging are 1.5 inches high.. and the finish line can be roughly 6 in high


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Re: Sneak peek pecker extension [Re: WHITEDART] #2501827
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I have been kicking around the idea of putting a stripe taker on my black Duster because I race against so many Dragsters in box class. That would change up the way they line you up at the starting line by about 18 inches. Not really a fan of the ones that stick out past the bumper.


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Re: Sneak peek pecker extension [Re: pittsburghracer] #2501853
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Starting line is 3" high.. every thing else is
6" high
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Re: Sneak peek pecker extension [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2501890
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Originally Posted By MR_P_BODY
Starting line is 3" high.. every thing else is
6" high
wave

I remember friends of mine that worked for NHRA division seven saying 3.0 inches off the ground to, I think, the center of the bulb and receiver unit on the staging beams, 6.0 inches on the other end bulbs and recievers confused
As far as heads up stripe takers NHRA limits the 36.0 inch rule max from the center of the spindle to the front due to the funny cars guys moving the front air dams out further than those cars body styles came with back a long time ago work scope


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Re: Sneak peek pecker extension [Re: Cab_Burge] #2501953
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Originally Posted By Cab_Burge
Originally Posted By MR_P_BODY
Starting line is 3" high.. every thing else is
6" high
wave

I remember friends of mine that worked for NHRA division seven saying 3.0 inches off the ground to, I think, the center of the bulb and receiver unit on the staging beams, 6.0 inches on the other end bulbs and recievers confused
As far as heads up stripe takers NHRA limits the 36.0 inch rule max from the center of the spindle to the front due to the funny cars guys moving the front air dams out further than those cars body styles came with back a long time ago work scope
I was wondering if someone can verify the height of the staging beams I keep finding 1.5 to 1 5/8. And some people have mentioned three in on here. some places are saying minimum car height of 3 in... thanks in advance

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Re: Sneak peek pecker extension [Re: WHITEDART] #2501970
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Originally Posted By WHITEDART
Originally Posted By Cab_Burge
Originally Posted By MR_P_BODY
Starting line is 3" high.. every thing else is
6" high
wave

I remember friends of mine that worked for NHRA division seven saying 3.0 inches off the ground to, I think, the center of the bulb and receiver unit on the staging beams, 6.0 inches on the other end bulbs and recievers confused
As far as heads up stripe takers NHRA limits the 36.0 inch rule max from the center of the spindle to the front due to the funny cars guys moving the front air dams out further than those cars body styles came with back a long time ago work scope
I was wondering if someone can verify the height of the staging beams I keep finding 1.5 to 1 5/8. And some people have mentioned three in on here. some places are saying minimum car height of 3 in... thanks in advance


You have to have 3" of clearance to 12" behind
the center line of the spindle.. lesser than 3"
you will not pass NHRA inspection(other tracks
shruggy) anything past the starting line is
6"
EDIT
I had to raise my car 1/4" due to the NHRA rule
when I built it
wave

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Re: Sneak peek pecker extension [Re: WHITEDART] #2502081
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The little secret they don't want to mention is that it also increases MPH readings 3-5 mph, so they can brag about how much more Horsepower they have.


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Re: Sneak peek pecker extension [Re: WHITEDART] #2502090
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This ain't new, back in the early 70s, none other than the "famous" Royce Mller (MIR) had a 69 Camaro with the front spoiler across the front,very low. He would dump the car at he stripe, fooling the other guy into thinking they where ahead. A lot of smart guys around that area at that time. Fuzzy Norton had one of the first delay boxes then also, very hard to beat those guys, no backing into a win.

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Originally Posted By MoparBilly
The little secret they don't want to mention is that it also increases MPH readings 3-5 mph, so they can brag about how much more Horsepower they have.

How does it do that? If the cones/beams down track are all the same height (lower than the stage beam), how does the extension make the MPH faster? I understand the ET being slightly quicker b/c the distance travelled is thrown off w/ the extension.


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Re: Sneak peek pecker extension [Re: MoparBilly] #2502159
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Originally Posted By MoparBilly
The little secret they don't want to mention is that it also increases MPH readings 3-5 mph, so they can brag about how much more Horsepower they have.


How do you figure that? If all the down track beams are 6" off the track the speed will be the same.

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Originally Posted By justinp61
Originally Posted By MoparBilly
The little secret they don't want to mention is that it also increases MPH readings 3-5 mph, so they can brag about how much more Horsepower they have.


How do you figure that? If all the down track beams are 6" off the track the speed will be the same.

Maybe the tire hits the first one and when the front end drops the pecker hits the last one, less time=faster mph, same as et.??
Can't see it happening if down for both.

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Re: Sneak peek pecker extension [Re: an8sec70cuda] #2502226
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Originally Posted By an8sec70cuda
Originally Posted By MoparBilly
The little secret they don't want to mention is that it also increases MPH readings 3-5 mph, so they can brag about how much more Horsepower they have.

How does it do that? If the cones/beams down track are all the same height (lower than the stage beam), how does the extension make the MPH faster? I understand the ET being slightly quicker b/c the distance travelled is thrown off w/ the extension.


MILES PER HOUR TIMER
Also known as the speed trap, this timer is located 66 feet before the finish line. It records the car’s average speed between it and the finish line. This is the mile per hour figure on your time slip.

So, if the car got there sooner, with the extension, would it fool the timer into a faster speed?


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