Re: Maybe a crazy idea?
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Re: Maybe a crazy idea?
[Re: Spartan040]
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That's the one I was thinking of but could not find
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Re: Maybe a crazy idea?
[Re: Spartan040]
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I've had another one of my complicated and expensive ideas that I think could be really cool. I looked up the dimensions for both the 1970 Challenger and the 2016 Camaro, and they're actually surprisingly close. Very close in wheelbase length and only 3" difference in overall length and height, 1" difference in width. Would it be remotely possible to put the Camaro chassis into the Challenger? I only ask because the modern Camaro handles extremely well, but I'm not sure if it would end up being better, worse, or not worth whatever advantage would be gained versus the aftermarket options already out there like the Hotchkiss TVS, or the AlterKtion and Street Lynx kits? If I did this would I have to switch to a gen 3 Hemi or could I manage to keep the big block? The easier approach would be to just re-skin the Camaro with AMD/Goodmark/dynacorn Challenger repro sheetmetal, this way you retain all the engineered value put into the Camaro chassis/driveline, rather than frankensteining both cars, it would be a less daunting project that way
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Re: Maybe a crazy idea?
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05/01/18 12:13 PM
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Also consider SCHWARTZ PERFORMANCE.. as they have full frame assemblies.. very impressive.. I've been to their facility in NW Illinois.
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Re: Maybe a crazy idea?
[Re: Spartan040]
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05/11/18 12:14 PM
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Let's look at it this way,
3,200# e-body. Hotchkis suspension with 1.10" torsion bars & adjustable fox-shocks. 13" Baer / Wilwood / Dr.Diff brakes. Modern, custom or (modern Ford) 17-18" wheels with -good- tires. Ready-to-run on a crate, 5.7 Hemi & TR6060 trans for 6-8k (eBay). Hydroboost swap. Power steering, 14:1 ratio. -way- ahead of trying to Frankenstein an lx mopar / gm chassis and challenger body. I don't even see why a custom chassis even comes into the equation, when all the testing / R&D has been done with the factory style suspension upgrades from companies like Hotchkis.
You do know the new Ford GT runs a torsion bar suspension right? It won the 24-hour of Le Mans. Unfortunately, we don't have a valve actuated coil spring to manipulate our ride height / spring rate.
There is no reason why a Challenger can't be built to handle / perform exceptionally well, without going into the deep end financially and using off-the-shelf parts. It will just take more effort to drive at the limit, but the limit is exactly the same. Ever turned all the electronic management systems off on a modern car making 400+ HP? Don't.
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1969 Plymouth Road Runner (440 w/ Boost! RIP) now a low-deck 470 with hotchkis suspension, nascar boom tube exhaust, & big brakes.
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Re: Maybe a crazy idea?
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05/11/18 06:06 PM
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my sons friend has a 59 bellaire sectioned onto a 96 police caprice----first on the police unit they cut off the entire body leaving the rolling pan with the firewall---next they cut off the floor pan of the 59 bellaire---in 5 days they had a running car---the friend--dan of bitchin stitchin of lakewood colorado spent a couple years putting together the interior---- well because that is what he does----seated in the car it looks brand new----outside the car its original red/orange paint---but the lt1 motor is capable of 150 mph...we have talked of doing that with a 50 hudson/2006 300c........ Makes more sense being a 59' Bel Air and not a 70' Challenger when we're talking about frame-off body swaps. Chevrolet Caprice (police cars) were a dime-a-dozen, they were practically liquidated, so there was no drawback sawzalling it in half like a $10,000(+) high-mileage donor SRT etc. I know a lot of guys in the Ford world transplant the Crown Vic' frame/driveline with IFS into early F-series trucks, same idea, liquidated donor pricing being ex-police cars. There are better ways with the aftermarket support to increase the performance of our cars, especially the popular e-body Mopars.
Last edited by Sweet5ltr; 05/11/18 06:08 PM.
1969 Plymouth Road Runner (440 w/ Boost! RIP) now a low-deck 470 with hotchkis suspension, nascar boom tube exhaust, & big brakes.
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